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    Watching Fights more important than reading manuals and listening to old people

    "Old age is no longer synonymous with wisdom"


    #2
    He put his skills on display in that fight. Poor Gatti never had a chance.

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      #3
      How about "experiences"? Seems that one of the oldest cultures holds their "older people" with reverance while the youngests doesn't. Seems to me that in boxing like most life threating activities that ALL thoughts and techniques should be considered to develop a method for success!!!!
      As a very young trainer I had great mentors so I never had the problem of doubting my mentors whose background experiences were so valuable to my growth. From disecting an opponent to getting my cut medicine mix improved.
      Theres no way I knew more about inside fighting than Gaspar Ortega just like making my mix and not studing how Eddie Alliano worked it!
      Theres NO getting around quality proven experiences, the problem at times is getting the greats to share!!!! In boxing you always have to "prove yourself"!
      Ray

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        #4
        Outstanding video, coach. Brilliance at work on both accounts.

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          #5
          Watching Fights more important than reading manuals and listening to old people
          What? so what is the point in training, getting advice from trainers or learning from someone who has been there. Sorry but that seems extremely arrogant to say and I think while you can learn from watching fights, nothing prepares you like experience. Also, imitating someone isn't the best thing to do becuase while mayweather is a great fighter, he has something that god gave him, something your born with. you can't duplicate that, if you could everyone would be fighting at his level.

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            #6
            Great video.
            But I really want to know if actually MEANT to do that,do you think they actually train that? Like you said in the video "who teaches that" my point exactly I don't recall ever seeing somone move someones arm in the middle of a combination like that.
            So do you think he went into that situation ready to do that or was it a "in the moment" one time type of thing? Curious to see peoples input on this

            Other then that yes Mayweather looked on fire in that fight,simply just on another level

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              #7
              Originally posted by shs101 View Post
              Great video.
              But I really want to know if actually MEANT to do that,do you think they actually train that? Like you said in the video "who teaches that" my point exactly I don't recall ever seeing somone move someones arm in the middle of a combination like that.
              So do you think he went into that situation ready to do that or was it a "in the moment" one time type of thing? Curious to see peoples input on this

              Other then that yes Mayweather looked on fire in that fight,simply just on another level
              I agree with this...I think a lot of what happens in a fight is improvisation and instincts. Floyd is no different except he has a ton of experience to lean on and years of developed instincts. I would be surprised if he's actually practiced this move. I've never recalled him even attempting it in other fights. I think having the where with all to even THINK of doing something like this simply comes from being relaxed and confident. When you're relaxed in the ring and confident, things slow down and you SEE things you wouldn't see if not relaxed.

              "When you're relaxed in there, you can even surprise yourself with the things you can do" - Andre Ward

              And few are as poised and relaxed in the ring as Floyd.

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                #8
                iv seen a video where he explains to use that right hand to move the guys arm about.

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                  #9
                  "Watching Fights more important than reading manuals and listening to old people".

                  Watching fights is certainly a great way to learn.

                  However, it's worth remembering that many of these "old people" / coaches have watched and learned from hundreds / thousands of fights themselves.

                  Often, they have spent a great deal of time thinking about what they seen, as well coaching and testing / refining what they have leaned in many different situations with many different fighters against many different opponents over decades in some cases.

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                    #10
                    Don't think you can learn this by watching him do it unfortunately. I think its more of an experience thing. I'm sure I've seen someone else do it somewhere before just can't remember when. The moving his arm out of the way thing I mean. They don't teach you this stuff most of the time because its far more important that you work on fundamentals. Few guys are fast enough to drop their guard like that and not get tagged. Floyd is a speed freak. I anticipate that after getting hit some more and putting on some age he will start to lose over and over because without that speed he'll be too unorthodox. Kind of like Roy Jones. Of course you never know he is so damn fast and he might realize it when he slows down and change his style, but most guys don't. Sorry off topic.
                    Watching fights is not more important than listening to old people though...I don't think you can learn much from watching besides tactics most of what a guy does is based on what he has and chances are that your not identical to that fella so it won't work. (i.e. height, reach, reflexes, natural strength). A good trainer will know how to train someone like you specifically.

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