So I spar this GUY after My routine yesterday.

[mgkirkpatrick]

doing a sports psyc course at the moment and there's all this research that proves that people who are task orientated in sports learn quicker and better than people who are ego orientated..

ego orientated being your motivation for improvement is beating others.. and improving in comparison to others

task orientated being your motivation is for attaining self made goals.. improving in comparison to yourself..

its the way to go man

(the tests i did showed i was ego orientated too)

[DELETED ACCOUNT 06]

doing a sports psyc course at the moment and there's all this research that proves that people who are task orientated in sports learn quicker and better than people who are ego orientated..

ego orientated being your motivation for improvement is beating others.. and improving in comparison to others

task orientated being your motivation is for attaining self made goals.. improving in comparison to yourself..

its the way to go man

(the tests i did showed i was ego orientated too)

no suprise there. I always had you down as some kind of egotistical aussie monster!

[mgkirkpatrick]

haha it just means id rather come first in a race than run a personal best

who'd have thought those internally motivated ****s would be the ones who get the success

[DELETED ACCOUNT 06]

I always thought i wasn't as competative as others to be honest Liam.

It might sound strange, but coming first in everything doesn't bother me. I do sports not to win, but to enjoy myself. Of cause alot of enjoyment is found in winning, so that's why i probably strive to be sucessfull at boxing.

I do things for myself I guess, not to impress others.

I always thought I was just odd for being like this, but it seems i'm one of the other types of people.

[kayjay]

I always thought i wasn't as competative as others to be honest Liam.

It might sound strange, but coming first in everything doesn't bother me. I do sports not to win, but to enjoy myself. Of cause alot of enjoyment is found in winning, so that's why i probably strive to be sucessfull at boxing.

I do things for myself I guess, not to impress others.

I always thought I was just odd for being like this, but it seems i'm one of the other types of people.

Neither am I. I've even taken my foot off the gas a few times in competitions, just so as not to hurt some egotistical **** too badly

[DELETED ACCOUNT 06]

Neither am I. I've even taken my foot off the gas a few times in competitions, just so as not to hurt some egotistical **** too badly

I see where you're coming from entirely. I always feel that this is some kind of weakness.

It's made me think more about which professionals are task orientated or ego orientated.... is one less sucessful than the other?

I mean.. take an upcoming fight - the first one i think with those specifications... possibly Cotto vs. Gomez? I think Gomez is task orientated... where Cotto is ego orientated?

I don't know... are all champions ego orientated MG? Tell us more about what you were lectured.

[DA1CATAS]

Well I must be a complex person.. because wanting to be the dominating factor is the reason I have built to give out.. along with the money,fame, and power that comes along with it.

I'm gonna sound crazy But I'll tell you part of my real reason...

I need a huge house..that is kept at very low tempetures for me to live in...The cost of this place will be ridiculous as it will have everything I need... It won't be "lifestyle flashy" but it will be big. Then I could possibly live in peace.

[DELETED ACCOUNT 06]

Well I must be a complex person.. because wanting to be the dominating factor is the reason I have built to give out.. along with the money,fame, and power that comes along with it.

I'm gonna sound crazy But I'll tell you part of my real reason...

I need a huge house..that is kept at very low tempetures for me to live in...The cost of this place will be ridiculous as it will have everything I need... It won't be "lifestyle flashy" but it will be big. Then I could possibly live in peace.

You're boxing to become rich and have stuff?!! Eeh... that is complex.

You know when you've got that house, you'll want something else...right?

I don't even think Mr.Flashy Pretty Boy Floyd started boxing for money. I think he did it, just to box.

[DA1CATAS]

You're boxing to become rich and have stuff?!! Eeh... that is complex.

You know when you've got that house, you'll want something else...right?

I don't even think Mr.Flashy Pretty Boy Floyd started boxing for money. I think he did it, just to box.

I'm doing it for health. I need more medicine... I take some everyday... And I actually just put some on.
An alternative to my medicine is when Its winter time.

I don't have money to move away from summer...I don't even have money to visit my nieces... And I refuse to just have a 3-5 month period of suffering every year...When my body is old it wont be able to take that.

If someone would give me a House with those heating specifications I'd be Great. But thats not happening. So I box to for my health. If you had what I have you'd understand the severity of the affect weather has on me.

[mgkirkpatrick]

I see where you're coming from entirely. I always feel that this is some kind of weakness.

It's made me think more about which professionals are task orientated or ego orientated.... is one less sucessful than the other?

I mean.. take an upcoming fight - the first one i think with those specifications... possibly Cotto vs. Gomez? I think Gomez is task orientated... where Cotto is ego orientated?

I don't know... are all champions ego orientated MG? Tell us more about what you were lectured.

yeah im the same.. i dont need to grind someone into the dirt for a kick..

i havent got too much info actually on this.. i was sick as a dog and i missed the lecture on motivation but caught up a bit in the tute...

i think the gist of it was.. its not definitive.. like not all losers are this and not all winners are that.. you can succeed with either and fail with either.. but as a general statement..

people with task orientation improve and learn much better than people with ego orientation.. so i guess the greater majority of champs would be task orientated.. this may differ in boxing as it's such a one on one beat or be beat type of sport.

just looking at some notes now.. definitely better to be task orientated


research on ego orientation has shown..

Higher anxiety, lower self-efficacy
Decreased effort
High ego + low perceived competence => poor motivation
Success is due to ability
Feeling incompetent
Increased drop outs
Increased chance of failure


task orientation research has shown...

Long term participation
Performance benefits
greater Confidence & perception of competence
Success due to effort
Less likely to cheat
“flow” state
Quality of training enhanced

so you're probably in a good place being task orientated mick