Doesnt it feel good WHEn..

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Depends on the MMA. While waiting for my eardrum to heal up after this most recent fight, I took a few weeks of Judo, 2-3 times per week. THAT is a damned fun sport, and it's definitely a full-contact, intense combat sport. It differs from non-contact martial arts; you get pummeled into the mat. A lot. And it hurts. It's not as brutal as boxing, but you get bounced around pretty good. I was as sore as I get from boxing; no actual injuries or blood, but it's a full-contact sport, no doubt. I would not screw with a skilled Judoka.

I think I'm going to add Judo to my repertoire next year. Throwing people into the ground is FUN. And it's only gay if you smile.

You can "play" most of the MMA disciplines. You can train Ju Jitsu, Wrestling, Judo, all of those disciplines and not risk your life in there. You are not going to go unconcious by a submission unless you choose too...or the guy's a **** and just plain puts you to sleep. Bottom line...you dont "play" boxing.

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You can "play" most of the MMA disciplines. You can train Ju Jitsu, Wrestling, Judo, all of those disciplines and not risk your life in there. You are not going to go unconcious by a submission unless you choose too...or the guy's a **** and just plain puts you to sleep. Bottom line...you dont "play" boxing.

I can easily envision landing badly and breaking my neck or dislocating a shoulder or finger. Like I said, it's not as brutal as boxing. But it hurts. And that carries a lot of weight with me.

This is not an argument I want to get into again. Too many threads on this subject already.

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I can easily envision landing badly and breaking my neck or dislocating a shoulder or finger. Like I said, it's not as brutal as boxing. But it hurts. And that carries a lot of weight with me.

This is not an argument I want to get into again. Too many threads on this subject already.

That is sports my friend. I never said in MMA you dont get injuries. I am just on the side of the fence that boxers are tougher.

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Depends on the MMA. While waiting for my eardrum to heal up after this most recent fight, I took a few weeks of Judo, 2-3 times per week. THAT is a damned fun sport, and it's definitely a full-contact, intense combat sport. It differs from non-contact martial arts; you get pummeled into the mat. A lot. And it hurts. It's not as brutal as boxing, but you get bounced around pretty good. I was as sore as I get from boxing; no actual injuries or blood, but it's a full-contact sport, no doubt. I would not screw with a skilled Judoka.

I think I'm going to add Judo to my repertoire next year. Throwing people into the ground is FUN. And it's only gay if you smile

****ing awesome to hear that you have ventured outside the snug world of boxing.

i just want to correct one point though. there is no such thing as a non-contact martial art. hell, i could not even begin to imagine how you could train a fighting art without at least a light form of sparring. and drills are an absolute necessity.

but, sadly, there are schools of "martial arts" that deemphasize physical contact and focus mainly on health. i just sort gloss over these as representations of fighting arts and see them more as health maintenence.

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****ing awesome to hear that you have ventured outside the snug world of boxing.

i just want to correct one point though. there is no such thing as a non-contact martial art. hell, i could not even begin to imagine how you could train a fighting art without at least a light form of sparring. and drills are an absolute necessity.

but, sadly, there are schools of "martial arts" that deemphasize physical contact and focus mainly on health. i just sort gloss over these as representations of fighting arts and see them more as health maintenence.

Perhaps I should have written: "light-contact martial art."

My elder sister and I have an ongoing argument about this; my 13-year-old nephew excels at some obscure form of Kung Fu that involves dazzling aerial kicks, insanely complex (but very cool to watch) katas, and focusing chi, and while he is amazing to watch, he has never gotten so much as a bruise in the six years he's been doing this. They pull their blows when sparring and never make contact except for throws, and even then they start the throw and let the other person down easy. The only ones they hit or throw are the instructors.

She is convinced that he is being trained for self-defense. I am of the belief that he is being strengthened physically and spiritually, but the first time someone lays into him with a left hook to the liver, he's done for. Of course, a flying scissor kick > left hook to the liver, in her eyes. They are very granola-hippie, and think boxing is, "a brutal game for cavemen and Roman gladiators." To which I reply, "And what's your point?"

EDIT: I want to add that, after just three weeks of dorking around with Judo, I realize how much trouble I would be in against a skilled grappler -- assuming, of course, that I didn't drop him with an uppercut when he got in that close. I am definitely adding Judo to my arsenal.

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haha "granola-hippie"...

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Perhaps I should have written: "light-contact martial art."

My elder sister and I have an ongoing argument about this; my 13-year-old nephew excels at some obscure form of Kung Fu that involves dazzling aerial kicks, insanely complex (but very cool to watch) katas, and focusing chi, and while he is amazing to watch, he has never gotten so much as a bruise in the six years he's been doing this. They pull their blows when sparring and never make contact except for throws, and even then they start the throw and let the other person down easy. The only ones they hit or throw are the instructors.

She is convinced that he is being trained for self-defense. I am of the belief that he is being strengthened physically and spiritually, but the first time someone lays into him with a left hook to the liver, he's done for. Of course, a flying scissor kick > left hook to the liver, in her eyes. They are very granola-hippie, and think boxing is, "a brutal game for cavemen and Roman gladiators." To which I reply, "And what's your point?"

EDIT: I want to add that, after just three weeks of dorking around with Judo, I realize how much trouble I would be in against a skilled grappler -- assuming, of course, that I didn't drop him with an uppercut when he got in that close. I am definitely adding Judo to my arsenal.

Ha ha, well said.

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Perhaps I should have written: "light-contact martial art."

My elder sister and I have an ongoing argument about this; my 13-year-old nephew excels at some obscure form of Kung Fu that involves dazzling aerial kicks, insanely complex (but very cool to watch) katas, and focusing chi, and while he is amazing to watch, he has never gotten so much as a bruise in the six years he's been doing this. They pull their blows when sparring and never make contact except for throws, and even then they start the throw and let the other person down easy. The only ones they hit or throw are the instructors.

She is convinced that he is being trained for self-defense. I am of the belief that he is being strengthened physically and spiritually, but the first time someone lays into him with a left hook to the liver, he's done for. Of course, a flying scissor kick > left hook to the liver, in her eyes. They are very granola-hippie, and think boxing is, "a brutal game for cavemen and Roman gladiators." To which I reply, "And what's your point?"

****ing yikes!!!! ****!!!

my friend, your nephew is learning the useless skill of xma aka extreme martial arts. it has absolutely no value for fighting, ring or street self defence besides flexibility and conditioning. i was at a family picnic for my pop's work when i was young kid and saw a team of xma'ers put on a show. even then, i couldn't help thinking that i just wanted to beat their asses. back then, i had only done harate, but we at least did full contact sparring at the end of every class. of course now you know i am a chinese boxer. no pulling punches here.

so, it is useless as a martial art, and in fact is dangerous if it is presented as self defence training. there is a strong probability that he will end up hurt if he ever has to fight anyone who is not afraid of him or has a tiny bit of street fighting experience. and 6 years without even a bruise. if that was my nephew, i would go to that wannabe martial arts school and demand money back or kick the instructors ass myself.

if you can find a website for the school, i would love to see what the boy is being taught. i could also, if you let me know his general location, take a look around at the options for his area for martial arts training so that you could try to persuade him and her into a better craft.

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if you can find a website for the school, i would love to see what the boy is being taught. i could also, if you let me know his general location, take a look around at the options for his area for martial arts training so that you could try to persuade him and her into a better craft.

He wants to try boxing -- he thinks it's very cool -- but his parents won't let him box until he turns 18 and leaves the house. Seriously. They also won't let him play football. Violent sports are "unharmonious." I am not making this up.

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EDIT: I want to add that, after just three weeks of dorking around with Judo, I realize how much trouble I would be in against a skilled grappler -- assuming, of course, that I didn't drop him with an uppercut when he got in that close. I am definitely adding Judo to my arsenal

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