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    #91
    JCC Sr. is a hall of fame fighter.

    Manny is not there yet.

    In their primes...I would take JCC Sr. A lot of people are just flaming and talking trash not making any real analysis.

    Take a look at the fight with Medrick Taylor. Taylor was a beautiful fighter. Quick as hell on his feet, Combinations, Hand Speed, and He had power. As far as skills go, he was one of the most skilled lighter weights who has ever put on the gloves.

    JCC took 3 punches for 1 for a long time in that match. And Taylor couldn't hurt him. You think PacMan could? (The fight actually turned in the 6th or 7th round, just no one really noticed till they saw Taylors face)

    JMM pwned Manny, despite the fact that Manny knocked him down 3 times. Whoever said Manny can't fight backing up is right, he also can't fight you if you can keep him at range and outside of your kitchen. He has no jab defense whatsoever.

    JCC Sr. shots would have been brutal, and he probably wouldn't have taken as many punches as Medrick Taylor through at him. Manny doesn't have combinations as good as Taylors were.

    I'm not knocking Manny in anyway. He's tough. But his boxing skills are not elite. He is fast, strong, has a decent chin, and he has great stamina. He flat out outworks most opponents, wears them down with relentless pressure.

    But against a Boxer, with Good Stamina, who can take a punch he has a hard time. Morales showed that in the first fight. Used his Jab, kept Manny back, and busted him up at range. Second fight, Manny worked harder, Morales made the mistake of engaging earlier than he should have, and he paid for it late in the fight.

    No doubt Manny is a good fighter, he beat both Morales and Berrera who are arguably two of the best in that division in the last decade.

    I give JCC Sr. his props though, over 100 fights is just tough. When you are willing to go fight that much, anything can happen. Just because the good portion of the other fighters may not have been on the same level does not degrade the fact that he was willing to fight that much.

    Someone said "We'll see when Manny gets to 100 fights"
    That will never happen. Especially when you only fight 3 times a year or less.

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      #92
      Chavez murders Pacquiao.

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        #93
        And Chavez goes to jail.

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          #94
          Originally posted by Chups View Post
          Yes a pathetic thread started by an insecure Mexican fan. He was also the one who started a thread entitled "who's better in boxing Philippines or Mexico?"....what an insecure biatch!
          deeply agreed,

          but he immediately found a fellow idiot in the poster with Flash Elorde for avatar.

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            #95
            Originally posted by Stromprophet View Post
            JCC Sr. is a hall of fame fighter.

            Manny is not there yet.
            IBHOF requirements are not that stringent

            pacman is in there for sure (3 div champ, 2 times lineal)

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              #96
              Chavez by brutal TKO. How can you match Manny up against a legend?
              Manny is a legend only in the 'pines. Chavez is a legend around the world. No contest.

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                #97
                Originally posted by SalvaDominicano View Post
                Chavez by brutal TKO. How can you match Manny up against a legend?
                Manny is a legend only in the 'pines. Chavez is a legend around the world. No contest.


                Come on...you're pushing it......JCC is only a legend in Mexico. Try even asking Mexican-Americans who JCC is and they'll give you a huh?

                Around the world eh?.....LOL....ask Borat if he knows JCC.

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                  #98
                  Exactly!!!

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by wmute View Post
                    IBHOF requirements are not that stringent

                    pacman is in there for sure (3 div champ, 2 times lineal)

                    True IBHOF sucks.....there's a lot of undeserving fighters in there.

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                      Originally posted by turboflat4 View Post
                      If you think that JCC is not an overrated bum who fights taxi cab drivers and janitors to pad his record, and if you think he can hang w/ Pac @130 then you're just a nuthugger in denial and just goes to show you don't know jack **** about boxing. jcc always gets brutally schooled when fghting elites.
                      these are JCC's notable wins until the age of 30, after taking away all the cab drivers... that's still a better record than Pacman has until now.

                      130
                      Mario Martinez
                      Ruben Castillo
                      Roger Mayweather
                      Rocky Lockridge
                      Juan La Porte

                      135
                      Edwin Rosario
                      Jose Luis Ramirez

                      140
                      Roger Mayweather
                      Meldrick Taylor
                      Hector Camacho
                      Greg Haugen

                      how can your nuthugging mind conceive that a fighter who is concerned with his opponent weighing in above 130 (and rightfully so, since he won his 1st title at flyweight), beat a fighter who was a great at 140?

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