Will people ever STOP OVERRATING old primitive era boxers with little skill?

[Science]

Sloppy, clumsy, face 1st bum beaters

Jimmy Thunder would knock Dempsey out.

[LoadedWraps]

I just got finished reading a RING ****ZINE article from a few years in degust, for several different reasons. One being how ring ****zine and many boxing fans/journalist/critiques, disregard the EYE TEST.

For example, this particular had Jack Dempsey as the 5th greatest heavyweight of all time . Dempsey in his prime was 190 pounds, had no skill (neither did his opponents) and would get CRUSHED by an average amateur middleweight of today?

I recall one idiot (FROM THIS MESSAGE BOARD) saying how fighters were so great back then "because they fought 30-40 rounds". The reason they were able to fight all those rounds was because they didn't do anything but circle each other and hold. If you fight 30 rounds in a Boxing match that means your not doing anything.

Logic gets thrown out the window when it comes to old primitive boxers.

Will people ever stop overrating old fighters from the past?

It depends on the actual era but the reality is that more boxing knowledge has been lost than has been gained globally over boxing's lifecycle.

Fighters today on average are less skilled, less tough, and are asked to do less over their careers. They fight less skilled opposition than other generations as well.

Most "champs" today wouldn't be more than club fighters back when you had to fight every month or so and you had to fight lions to really earn a title and take all comers.

We've advanced in nutrition and kinesiology but that only part of the puzzle. Boxing is hundreds of years old and the golden eras have past, will another arise only time will tell. Outside of Fury, who I genuinely believe is the epitome of combat and who is an outlier in greatness and ceiling, and whom I think can be champion in any era, the rest of today's best fighters would take losses to greats from the past. You have to go back a really long time to find humans just swinging like Neanderthals. The sweet science has been a sport will depth and strategy for over a century.

[BoxingIsGreat]

I tend to agree, i mean, this guy is supposed to be the GOAT, right?

He looks like a primitive noob in this clip.

[boogbx]

It depends on the actual era but the reality is that more boxing knowledge has been lost than has been gained globally over boxing's lifecycle.

Fighters today on average are less skilled, less tough, and are asked to do less over their careers. They fight less skilled opposition than other generations as well.

Most "champs" today wouldn't be more than club fighters back when you had to fight every month or so and you had to fight lions to really earn a title and take all comers.

We've advanced in nutrition and kinesiology but that only part of the puzzle. Boxing is hundreds of years old and the golden eras have past, will another arise only time will tell. Outside of Fury, who I genuinely believe is the epitome of combat and who is an outlier in greatness and ceiling, and whom I think can be champion in any era, the rest of today's best fighters would take losses to greats from the past. You have to go back a really long time to find humans just swinging like Neanderthals. The sweet science has been a sport will depth and strategy for over a century.

excellent post. Thank you.

I hadn't gotten to your words about Tyson Fury. I disagree with his as an example, I think a lot of the old timers Starch him.

Lennox Lewis, Rid**** Bowe, Ike Ibeabuchi, David Tua ( If Wilder caught him, Tua decapitates him) Ali, Foreman, Holmes, Mike Tyson

I'd favor over Tyson Fury. But given Tyson Fury's great defense, movement and skills he's not an easy out for anybody any era. That I do agree with.

[RuleOfTheSpear]

WBC, IBF, WBA didn't recognise the WBO up until the the mid 2000s. The 4 belt era (mid 2000s-present) created weak fighters.
Fighters today don't need to do much to become a champion. Especially if they can call themselves champion just by even holding a regular belt or interim belts. It's embarrassing to those who actually grind before the 4 belt era. There's a reason why monsters emerged before the 4 belt era. You had to become a monster to even be considered a champion at those times. The 4 belt era diluted the skills needed to really consider someone a 'champion'.

EDIT: Just found out that Pacquiao is the last champion to ever win a world title before the 4 belt era (won the wbc world title in '98 and the ibf world title in '01)

[BodyBagz]

Jimmy Thunder would knock Dempsey out.

Jimmy would 19 seconds their asses

[Roadblock]

It depends on the actual era but the reality is that more boxing knowledge has been lost than has been gained globally over boxing's lifecycle.

Fighters today on average are less skilled, less tough, and are asked to do less over their careers. They fight less skilled opposition than other generations as well.

Most "champs" today wouldn't be more than club fighters back when you had to fight every month or so and you had to fight lions to really earn a title and take all comers.

We've advanced in nutrition and kinesiology but that only part of the puzzle. Boxing is hundreds of years old and the golden eras have past, will another arise only time will tell. Outside of Fury, who I genuinely believe is the epitome of combat and who is an outlier in greatness and ceiling, and whom I think can be champion in any era, the rest of today's best fighters would take losses to greats from the past. You have to go back a really long time to find humans just swinging like Neanderthals. The sweet science has been a sport will depth and strategy for over a century.

This is such in a bubble thinking, I dont even know where to begin so I will end with just look at the dam videos of them guys fighting, they would get slaughtered today, the sport and man has evolved and is continuing to evolve, there are plenty modern era fighters that were balls to the wall, they have as much fight as anybody in the history of mankind, they failed to beat the best because they were crude and out classed, and so would the fighters of pretty much pre 1940.

[Lomadeaux]

in 100 years people will be like wait ggg was a top fighter? he had no skill. oh wait they do that now!

These children also think they're oppressed. Think about that.

[GhostofDempsey]

Jimmy Thunder would knock Dempsey out.

Are you really this ignorant or dumb? Don’t bother answering, you might hurt yourself.

[GhostofDempsey]

These children also think they're oppressed. Think about that.

These fools have been watching subpar fighters who are mostly one or two dimensional for too long. This is the weakest HW division of all time. You can always tell who has never stepped inside of a ring and answered the bell by the dumb shyt they post and their equally beta posting behavior.