Top 5 Trainers In The Game????? History?????

[MKOSPIB2]

I always see a lot of top 5 fighters in the game, or p4p lists, but i dont see to much trainer topics, i want to know who u guys think is the top 5 trainers in the game in one list, and possibly the top 5 trainers in history if u can think about it, this is a tough one and i dont want to make a mistake so i have to think about it...

[Dye]

Manny=the best trainer out there

[Galindezs]

Steward is up there on both.

Billy 'The Preacher' Graham is a very good active trainer.

Jack Blackburn and Charlie Goldman come to mind, of all-time.

[Rane-Ex54]

Cus D'mato, Lou Duva's been around awhile, of coarse Manny. Teddy Atlas was a good trainer, those are just a few of my fav's thou.

O a Buddy Mcgirt. hahaha

[BuddyChacon]

Freddie Roach is the top trainer in the game today.Look what he has done with Pac Man.
Charley Goldman could be all time greatest because of turning a raw Marciano into a legend.
Eddie Futch had so many champs will probably get the nod of being the best.

[PATO 1]

Futch,Manny,Dundee,Amato,Atlas

[Left2body]

Steward is up there on both.

Billy 'The Preacher' Graham is a very good active trainer.

Jack Blackburn and Charlie Goldman come to mind, of all-time.

I'm not so sure of Billy Graham, who has he trained other than Hatton, who isn't really great in my oppinion so how can his trainer be?

Manny
Roach
Goosen
Duva
Edit totally forgeot Futch horrible omission on my part.

BTW lets not forget the #1 trainer of all time "Mickey". He turned the puddy that was stallone and turned him into Rocky, I'll never forget those memorable words "Get up you son of a *****, cause Mickey loves Ya"

[Phantasm]

Angelo Dundee, Manny Steward and Eddie Futch on the All-Time lists. Current have to be McGirt (despite the recent losing streak) and Roach.

[Galindezs]

I'm not so sure of Billy Graham, who has he trained other than Hatton, who isn't really great in my oppinion so how can his trainer be?

The 1974 ABA North West Counties welterweight champion walked into the original Phoenix Gym in Salford (not the current one at Betta Bodies) in the Autumn of 1988 with his kitbag ready to start boxing again, but his old buddy Phil Martin threw him the bodybag and pads and told him to forget about boxing again but to help him out as a trainer instead. In the mid-70's, Graham had 12 wins and 2 losses as a professional boxer, then competed in a lot of 'smokers' (unsanctioned fights) in the late 70's before calling it a day.

Graham started working with Steve Foster and Ensley Bingham in January 1989, and vast improvement was shown in both boxers over the next few years with Graham eventually leading them to world title shots by the mid-90's. Graham had took over the gym himself in the early 90's and had a gym-full of champions and prospects, with no helpers. He had taught himself how to be a trainer.

The bodybag and pads were always out, the gym always had fighters in it with Billy taking a slamming alday as he brainwashed them with his technique while they were hammering away at him. He was training more fighters than any other trainer in the country, and always improving them. Maurice Core was the first fighter to turn pro under Graham, and Graham led him to a European title shot.

He's trained his share of world-level fighters like Ricky Hatton, Michael Brodie and Carl 'The Cat' Thompson. He's also trained the likes of Andy Holligan and Pat Barrett to world title shots. He helped Mark Winters with his technique. He created a very good prospect called Mark Haslam who fell out with Billy and left him after a fight with Tommy Pea****, Haslam did nothing after getting rid of Billy. John White was another very good prospect that Graham created, but he got thrown in prison. He took Michael Gomez on in 1998 and moulded him from very raw material into a multiple champion. He trained Wayne Rigby to his wins over Hugh Collins and Tanveer Ahmed, Rigby replaced Billy with another trainer (Bobby Shannon) for a fight against Bobby Vanzie and lost (and did nothing after getting rid of Billy).

His rules have always been simple: he refuses to train any fighters who smoke (even though he smokes himself!), he refuses to train any fighters who won't use weights, and he refuses to train any fighters who aren't straight with him.

His current stable includes the likes of Ricky Hatton, Matthew Hatton, Matthew Macklin, Anthony Farnell, Stephen Foster (Steve Foster's son), and Patrick J Maxwell.

I would say that Billy Graham is the best 'attack-minded' trainer that Britain has ever seen, and he has a very advanced boxing brain. Look at that job he did with Ricky Hatton, he single-handedly learned Ricky how to effectively work off opponents leads and thread punches through small gaps. He single-handedly learned Ricky how to move his head on the way in and throw a little jab on the way out. He single-handedly learned Ricky how to shift his position and step around to open an opponent up. He single-handedly learned Ricky where to place his body shots to have the best effect. Ricky had none of those tools in the amateurs (Graham didn't start training Hatton until December 1986), he was a heck of a talent as an amateur but over the years with Billy his skills became super-advanced.

[K-DOGG]

Ones that come to mind...

Jack Blackburn
Eddie Futch
Charlie Goldman
Ray Arcel
Emmanuel Steaward
Angelo Dundee


...yeah, that's 6; but I feel I couldn't leave out any of them.