Floyd's Illegal IV; A Prefight Ritual Or A One-Time Thing?

[New England]

Ya getting intravenous saline and vitamins is not cheating.

Floyd UD12 10-2 Manny

Floyd FOTD

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here's the thing:

this is a fighter who claims to cut no weight. wasn't sick, didn't show any medical justification for the use of an IV. in cases of mild even to moderate dehydration the most effective method for rehydration is to drink fluids. this is well studied.


so how does a fighter who claims to cut zero weight require 3/4 of a liter of saline and vitamins?

the main reason these transfusions are "illegal," and require what is essentially a doctor's note, is not for performance enhancing, but to stop athletes from using the IV's to mask PED use and flush them out of the system to pass a drug test.


at the very least what happened, the commision's handling of it, and the hysterical 180 they took to all of a sudden defend floyd mayweather, was highly su****ious.


do i suspect floyd of PED use particularly in that fight, given the circumstances? of course. FFS the guy got caught taking an illegal IV in exactly the manner used by lance armstrong and others to mask their PED use and pass drug tests. and again, he wasn't sick, wasn't dehydrated according to any thing they've been able to produce.


at the very least you've got egg on your face and look like a goddamn child if you accuse pacquiao of ducking floyd for years and years becasue of PED use and then you don't make a f#cking sound when this happens.

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this is a fighter who claims to cut no weight.

That's a lie. He claimed to only cut 5-7 pounds. He was given 1.5 pounds of salt water.

wasn't sick

You have no idea if he was sick or not.

didn't show any medical justification for the use of an IV.

That's a lie. He had to show medical justification in his application for an exemption. That application is then reviewed by a panel of doctors and experts that aren't told who the athlete is. That panel confirmed the use was medically justified.

in cases of mild even to moderate dehydration the most effective method for rehydration is to drink fluids.

Every top fighter on the planet will tell you that the quickest way to recover after a weigh in is IV rehydration. A method that was 100% legal in Nevada at the time. To avoid it being used to mask PEDs, Floyd and Manny voluntarily hired USADA to monitor them and make sure any IV use was for legitimate medical purposes. The panel of independent doctors and experts, who aren't told who the athlete is, confirmed the IV was for legitimate medical purposes.

so how does a fighter who claims to cut zero weight require 3/4 of a liter of saline and vitamins?

You're lying about him not cutting any weight. He weighed in at 146. He walks around at 150-155. He was only given 1.5 pounds of salt water.

the main reason these transfusions are "illegal," and require what is essentially a doctor's note, is not for performance enhancing, but to stop athletes from using the IV's to mask PED use and flush them out of the system to pass a drug test.

They made him take a drug test BEFORE the IV. So how could the IV flush his system?

[New England]

That's a lie. He claimed to only cut 5-7 pounds. He was given 1.5 pounds of salt water.




You have no idea if he was sick or not.




That's a lie. He had to show medical justification in his application for an exemption. That application is then reviewed by a panel of doctors and experts that aren't told who the athlete is. That panel confirmed the use was medically justified.




Every top fighter on the planet will tell you that the quickest way to recover after a weigh in is IV rehydration. A method that was 100% legal in Nevada at the time. To avoid it being used to mask PEDs, Floyd and Manny voluntarily hired USADA to monitor them and make sure any IV use was for legitimate medical purposes. The panel of independent doctors and experts, who aren't told who the athlete is, confirmed the IV was for legitimate medical purposes.




You're lying about him not cutting any weight. He weighed in at 146. He walks around at 150-155. He was only given 1.5 pounds of salt water.




They made him take a drug test BEFORE the IV. So how could the IV flush his system?

literalyl don't have to get through the first line of your post to know you're either misinformed or a paid / unpaid shill.




30 days out floyd claimed to be 150 lbs. 150.5 damn near naked. 30 f#cking days out. you're incredibly dense if you don't find it highly su****ious that this guy is all of a sudden dehydrated from cutting weight. which, again, is something he's claimed he's never done.

so he put weight back on to cut it again? is that what you're telling me?

this "salt water" you're talking about was 3/4 of a liter of saline and vitamins. it was not legal to administer an IV any larger than 50 ml and the reasoning for that is because it's an effective method for masking PED use. mild and moderate dehydration is treated with oral fluids. doctors and nurses will literally hand you a gatorade if you show up to a hospital with mild or moderate dehydration.

the guy got popped on the eve of the pacquiao fight after damn near a decade of accusing manny of taking performance enhancers. it is what it is, you can stick your head in the sand if you must. i'm showing you what he weighed 30 days out. 150.5 lbs. god bless you if you think he's putting weight back on just to cut it during the week of the fight, because you're dumber than everyone expected.

but whatever helps youg uys sleep at night, i guess. lying, sticking your head in the sand, do whatever you gotta do, dog. it happened, it was highly su****ious, and the world saw and will remember everything.

[djtmal]

He also looked superior to Shane when you called on them to fight. Since Floyd was so dominant you decided to call it a cherry pick years later and got caught lying that you didn't. You, hugh grant, and a number of other pac fans got caught doing this. None of you have any credibility.

You don't have any credibility based on how you try to overexaggerate your boy. Chief Floyd Boy. Always trying to slip in that bs. Superior. gtfoh.

You can change the narrative to Shane all you want because you know the truth hurts, Floyd didn't look superior to Pac imo in any way shape or form, despite how long it took him to cherrypick the right time to fight Shane. All you had to do was look at the fight.

He basically outpointed Pac in unspectacular fashion. It was as unspectacular as unspectacular gets to be on such a big stage. It was run, hold, shoot a jab, wash, rinse, repeat. I guess in Floyd Boy world what goes for superiority is of low standard.

Now how Floyd whooped on that 120 lb. Japanese kickboxer, now THATS superiority.

I mean did he even put a mark on Pac for all of this superiority?

I know its hard for you to come to terms with how your boy went from a fighter the majority respected to a no risk, high reward hollywood act that lost of lot of that respect.

[The Big Dunn]

You don't have any credibility based on how you try to overexaggerate your boy. Chief Floyd Boy. Always trying to slip in that bs. Superior. gtfoh.

You can change the narrative to Shane all you want because you know the truth hurts, Floyd didn't look superior to Pac imo in any way shape or form, despite how long it took him to cherrypick the right time to fight Shane. All you had to do was look at the fight.

He basically outpointed Pac in unspectacular fashion. It was as unspectacular as unspectacular gets to be on such a big stage. It was run, hold, shoot a jab, wash, rinse, repeat. I guess in Floyd Boy world what goes for superiority is of low standard.

I mean did he even put a mark on Pac for all of this superiority?

I know its hard for you to come to terms with how your boy went from a fighter the majority respected to a no risk, high reward hollywood act that lost of lot of that respect.

My credibility is undeniable. I don't overexaggerate anything, just post the cold, hard facts.

Of course he looked superior. 8-4, 10-2 and 10-2. Yeah it was boring, but that doesn't mean it wasn't dominant.

He put a mark on him mentally. Did you see the shame on Manny's face. Yes you did.

You were surely at one of those all Asian parties where by the 6th round everyone's demeanor changed and they just sat silently as Manny just withered away. Man those are some of my favorite videos because very rarely in life do you get to see arrogant a$$holes humiliated and put in their place in such a visceral way.

When he finally landed something in the 9th round you clowns collectively let out a scream. Imagine, all those years you clowns talked all that shit and you got 2 flurries over the course of 12 rounds. LMFAO!!!!

He just got FOTD so your posting about him losing respect is just a ridiculous. Make sure you come to the HOF induction ceremony.

[djtmal]

Of course he looked superior. 8-4, 10-2 and 10-2. Yeah it was boring, but that doesn't mean it wasn't dominant.

He put a mark on him mentally. Did you see the shame on Manny's face. Yes you did.

You were surely at one of those all Asian parties where by the 6th round everyone's demeanor changed and they just sat silently as Manny just withered away. Man those are some of my favorite videos because very rarely in life do you get to see arrogant a$$holes humiliated and put in their place in such a visceral way.

When he finally landed something in the 9th round you clowns collectively let out a scream. Imagine, all those years you clowns talked all that shit and you got 2 flurries over the course of 12 rounds. LMFAO!!!!

He just got FOTD so your posting about him losing respect is just a ridiculous. Make sure you come to the HOF induction ceremony.

He looked superior to 3 judges in Vegas, but I am not swayed by that.
Its like I said. A Floyd Boy's idea of superiority is warped.
3 different judges and that fight being in a neutral city, could have scored that fight a draw or for Pac. Thats how much room for debate Floyd left in my observation.

I mean, in two fights Floyd proved to me he was superior to Madonna. In one fight Canelo. In half a fight that Japanese kickboxer, but not Pac.

I mean, when you can pretty much cherrypick that best time to fight guys you should be in line for fighter of the century.

[The Big Dunn]

He looked superior to 3 judges in Vegas, but I am not swayed by that.
Its like I said. A Floyd Boy's idea of superiority is warped.
3 different judges and that fight being in a neutral city, could have scored that fight a draw or for Pac. Thats how much room for debate Floyd left in my observation.

I mean, in two fights Floyd proved to me he was superior to Madonna. In one fight Canelo. In half a fight that Japanese kickboxer, but not Pac.

I mean, when you can pretty much cherrypick that best time to fight guys you should be in line for fighter of the century.

You can make up any scenarios and fantasy scorecards you wish. You can pretend you are not convinced of his dominance and superiority. You've been caught lying before so you lying about this is expected.

In the real world-8-4, 10-2, 10-2 and thousands of videos with people like you whining, crying, ashamed, humiliated, emasculated and put in your place.

[djtmal]

You can make up any scenarios and fantasy scorecards you wish. You can pretend you are not convinced of his dominance and superiority. You've been caught lying before so you lying about this is expected.

In the real world-8-4, 10-2, 10-2 and thousands of videos with people like you whining, crying, ashamed, humiliated, emasculated and put in your place.

You can overexaggerate a lackluster performance by a fighter who proclaims himself the best ever, but cherrypicking the best time to fight guys, digressing into fighting 120 lb japanese kickboxers, and beefing up your record with mma fighters doesn't back up your superiority claims much.

You have been caught in your garbage, but we don't really make a big deal about it, because we know its just a matter of time before you put your foot in your mouth again. Like today with this running man/clinch king Floyd is superior to Manny nonsense.

[Shape up]

Who knows the USADA rules better, you or USADA?

You can’t get anything right, they are WADA rules, you’re very good at making mistakes, I’ll give you that

[The Big Dunn]

You can overexaggerate a lackluster performance by a fighter who proclaims himself the best ever, but cherrypicking the best time to fight guys, digressing into fighting 120 lb japanese kickboxers, and beefing up your record with mma fighters doesn't back up your superiority claims much.

You have been caught in your garbage, but we don't really make a big deal about it, because we know its just a matter of time before you put your foot in your mouth again. Like today with this running man/clinch king Floyd is superior to Manny nonsense.

No one rational factors in Conor or Tenshin when examining Floyd's career. That is just disgruntled. emasculated people like you desperately clinging to something that you thinks knocks him down. Anyone with an ounce of common sense understands those fights were rewards for his career.

In fact, as I've posted before, Manny and his fans were further humiliated when The Japanese picked Floyd over Manny for that payday. You guys steadily claim how manny fights the best and is a hero in Asia and the Pacific region yet when that company wanted to make money they reached out the proven commodity.

Superior in every way, shape and form. Always ranked ahead. Defeated easily in the ring. Earned much more money. Caused shame and humiliation at every Manny fan fight party.