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Can someone explain to me why wilder is allowed to get away with ducking whyte?

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    #71
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
    "if you drive this route you can get to the store" does that mean you won't get to the store any other route?

    I can't believe you're struggling with this.
    If the store is at the end of a road, then there may only be one way to drive there.

    If the road is blocked on the other side of the store, then there may only be one way to drive there.

    If you're driving a big truck, then there may be a low bridge and then only one way to drive to the store.

    If the store is on a one way street, then there may only be one way to drive there.

    Are we startimg to get how these if...then statements work?

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      #72
      Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View Post
      If the store is at the end of a road, then there may only be one way to drive there.

      If the road is blocked on the other side of the store, then there may only be one way to drive there.

      If you're driving a big truck, then there may be a low bridge and then only one way to drive to the store.

      If the store is on a one way street, then there may only be one way to drive there.

      Are we startimg to get how these if...then statements work?
      The suggestion doesn't rule out other ways. That's where you are lacking understanding. Hearn made a suggestion not a ultimatum or demand.

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        #73
        Wilder is the type of fraud who only fights who he wants to, who he and haymon have under control. It's the same as Mayweather fraud. It became obvious who floyd was afraid of - undefeated cotto with top rank, margarito, williams, martinez, prime pac, vivian harris, tsuyu, winky wright. Floyd and haymon could not control those threats so they were ducked. floyd picked all of his opponents except for pac after six years of ducking, because les moonves forced the fight on floyd haymon.

        now wilder is doing the same thing. he only fights controlled opp. he didn't want to fight povetkin, whyte, parker, wladimir, joshua so they were all ducked one way or another. fury is obviously rigged to play soft with the fraud.

        you will not see wilder forced into a fight he does not want no matter how much money he is offered. the big fraud from alabama ran away from career high paydays vs whyte povetkin and joshua to fight for peanuts vs breazeale an ortiz.

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          #74
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
          The suggestion doesn't rule out other ways. That's where you are lacking understanding. Hearn made a suggestion not a ultimatum or demand.
          Ok bud. I'm done arguing. You can interpret Mr Hearn however you want. You can read between the lines and try to extract a meaning other than the plain language meaning. You can say it was just a suggestion, and there are other (unnamed and unmentioned) paths to achieve the end result.

          Me, I'm going to read these words and interpret them as plainly as they are written...

          Then, if Wilder (38-0, 37 KOs) were to beat Whyte (21-1, 16 KOs), who was knocked out by Joshua in December 2015, he could face Joshua

          ...if he beats Whyte, then he fights Joshua.

          Nothing more, nothing less.

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            #75
            Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View Post
            Ok bud. I'm done arguing. You can interpret Mr Hearn however you want. You can read between the lines and try to extract a meaning other than the plain language meaning. You can say it was just a suggestion, and there are other (unnamed and unmentioned) paths to achieve the end result.

            Me, I'm going to read these words and interpret them as plainly as they are written...

            Then, if Wilder (38-0, 37 KOs) were to beat Whyte (21-1, 16 KOs), who was knocked out by Joshua in December 2015, he could face Joshua

            ...if he beats Whyte, then he fights Joshua.

            Nothing more, nothing less.
            So you're going to ignore what he actually said basically?

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              #76
              I just don't understand what everyone see's in Dillian Whyte. He's ****ing terrible.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                So you're going to ignore what he actually said basically?
                What do you mean?

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View Post
                  What do you mean?
                  You know exactly what i mean. You're claiming there was a demand when there was none. You're ignoring the english language to suit your agenda.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                    You know exactly what i mean. You're claiming there was a demand when there was none. You're ignoring the english language to suit your agenda.
                    I'm claiming there was a condition placed upon the AJ fight happening. The quote was (basically) If Wilder beats Whyte, then he fights AJ. That's how I read that. If you read it another way, that's fine. But, please, don't insult me because I read "If A, then B" as A being a condition which must be met for B to occur. That's how I was taught the American language.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Madison boxing View Post
                      This has been going on for years now.... whyte apparently doesnt deserve a chance but breazele did and ortiz got a second shot for doing nothing else other than getting even older and looking even slower? Why are wilder fans so scared of this fight happening? Is it cause whyte carries genuine one punch ko power? I dont understand this fury trilogy talk either, before theyve even had the 3rd fight... the first fight ****** too for 11 rounds
                      Because there is a lot of politics in boxing. And also because Whyte did not care to make career fights but rather fought prize-money (financial) fights.

                      Breazeale was mandatory and Ortiz is with PBC. Whyte was neither. Whyte has been ducking eliminators and gone for prize-fighting...fair enough, but then do not expect to have mandatories.
                      - Whyte was voluntarily offered to sign a 2-3 fight contract with PBC and guaranteed shot at Wilder...he refused.
                      - Whyte was voluntarily offered to fight Ortiz and, if he wins, he gets Wilder...again refused.
                      - Whyte was again asked by WBC to fight Ortiz as an eliminator to become future mandatory...but he refused.
                      - Whyte was asked to fight Pulev for mandatory for Joshua...but he refused.
                      - Whyte was offered voluntary Joshua fight before AJ went to the US...but he refused.

                      WBC is just one body. There are 4 more but Whyte wasn't mandatory for even one...why? At last, Eddie muscled his way and got the WBC to make Whyte - Rivas as eliminator even though Rivas was neither No. 2 or No. 3 or No. 4 or No. 5. So, technically, it should NOT have been an eliminator.

                      So, Whyte has no business blaming anyone but himself.

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