Was Usyk’s injury that bad for Spong matchup?

[Thuglife Nelo]

I fooks with Usyk heavy, but Spong does nothing for Usyk unless it’s just a stay busy filler fight for DAZN with the possibility that Usyk had a really bad injury or they mad insecure about its current healing.

I want to see Usyk with opportunities for a title sooner than later, but he should be matching up against lower tier fighters that emulate any of the top 5 for the 2020-2021 prep. Usyk is basically Crawford’s age, and the timing needs to be right.

Spong, another former MMA fighter whom was once skinny like Jarrell Miller to now being HUGE and boxing... I don’t mind proper former Kickboxers like Algieri or Lipinets etc..but Usyk should be prepping for pure boxers only.

I see people cheering this Spong fight, which is basically a cherry pick, but we complain about Rocky Fielding or Brandon Adams or Steve Rolls...

So how serious could this injury be that they got Spong?

[BangEM]

He had no injury - that's just coverup.

[Thuglife Nelo]

He had no injury - that's just coverup.

I thought of that too, very possible. But it’s possible for the preps towards Takam, Usyk may have injured something during sparring with Heavier guys.

If it’s not. And with Usyk entering VADA late, 20 days towards the fight... - which could possibly be because of Spong - but this fight just does nothing for Usyk for the harder fights.

[BangEM]

I thought of that too, very possible. But it’s possible for the preps towards Takam, Usyk may have injured something during sparring with Heavier guys.

If it’s not. And with Usyk entering VADA late, 20 days towards the fight... - which could possibly be because of Spong - but this fight just does nothing for Usyk for the harder fights.

No, I think he was just juicing to get bigger and also examining what risks to take based on his performance in sparring. In training camp, you determine how good a fighter is at a particular weight based on sparring.

Usyk has never been a power puncher - he's a volume puncher with extremely good workrate in late rds. That's how he wins fights. And he does get hit a lot, apart from the Glassiev fight where Glassiev was head hunting. If he comes to the HW division thinking his workrate and speed would get him through with those pillow fists - he's in for a rude awakening. If he fights the top guy, he would've to do VADA testing, so he can't get away with everything Holyfield got away with (even David Haye got away with a lot and he was on PED as well).

Anyway, I won't be surprised if Usyk gets dropped by Spong but he should win easily since Spong is a bum and a kick boxer.

[Thuglife Nelo]

No, I think he was just juicing to get bigger and also examining what risks to take based on his performance in sparring. In training camp, you determine how good a fighter is at a particular weight based on sparring.

Usyk has never been a power puncher - he's a volume puncher with extremely good workrate in late rds. That's how he wins fights. And he does get hit a lot, apart from the Glassiev fight where Glassiev was head hunting. If he comes to the HW division thinking his workrate and speed would get him through with those pillow fists - he's in for a rude awakening. If he fights the top guy, he would've to do VADA testing, so he can't get away with everything Holyfield got away with (even David Haye got away with a lot and he was on PED as well).

Anyway, I won't be surprised if Usyk gets dropped by Spong but he should win easily since Spong is a bum and a kick boxer.

Spong ain’t a natural heavy guy, was hella skinny before boxing, like Miller. He ain’t funna drop Usyk.

But I think you should give Usyk benefit of doubt about the injury. Remember that Cruisers are drained Semi Heavyweights, so at 200lbs without a drain will show promise. Bellew was running around the ring and when he got caught from a “pillow fist” he hit the canvas harder than when he did with Stevenson or Makabu. But yes the 20 days starting VADA does seem suspect. I think they only did that because industry would inquire. Then again you’ve got Breadman Edwards fanboying for PBC knowing Thurman and PAC didn’t have VADA testing at all but he cries about Canelo in his propaganda mailbags.

[Jax teller]

No, I think he was just juicing to get bigger and also examining what risks to take based on his performance in sparring. In training camp, you determine how good a fighter is at a particular weight based on sparring.

Usyk has never been a power puncher - he's a volume puncher with extremely good workrate in late rds. That's how he wins fights. And he does get hit a lot, apart from the Glassiev fight where Glassiev was head hunting. If he comes to the HW division thinking his workrate and speed would get him through with those pillow fists - he's in for a rude awakening. If he fights the top guy, he would've to do VADA testing, so he can't get away with everything Holyfield got away with (even David Haye got away with a lot and he was on PED as well).

Anyway, I won't be surprised if Usyk gets dropped by Spong but he should win easily since Spong is a bum and a kick boxer.

You are such a little b'itch boy.

You get upset like "AJ's never failed a test how dare you accuse him of juicing" and go posting about how Usyk is juicing with no evidence or knowledge whatsoever on even his size or teams tactics.

They've literal comeout and said he won't be looking to gain weight intentionally I pressume whatever he does will be natural from not having to make 200lbs anymore and for a guy that walks around 6'3 at 220lbs inbetween fights he won't need to put much on.

You make it embarrasing to be a fan of AJ and come on this forum.

[BangEM]

Spong ain’t a natural heavy guy, was hella skinny before boxing, like Miller. He ain’t funna drop Usyk.

But I think you should give Usyk benefit of doubt about the injury. Remember that Cruisers are drained Semi Heavyweights, so at 200lbs without a drain will show promise. Bellew was running around the ring and when he got caught from a “pillow fist” he hit the canvas harder than when he did with Stevenson or Makabu. But yes the 20 days starting VADA does seem suspect. I think they only did that because industry would inquire. Then again you’ve got Breadman Edwards fanboying for PBC knowing Thurman and PAC didn’t have VADA testing at all but he cries about Canelo in his propaganda mailbags.

Both are in the same boat and Spong does have power albeit he's a bum. He struggled against some Ecuadorian no-hoper and I expect Usyk to beat him easily. But this is HW boxing, if you get caught clean by anyone with power - a flash knock down can happen.

Only a few Cruiserweights are drained HWs - most of them are at their natural weights. Someone like Okolie is a drained cruiserweight but Usyk is a natural cruiserweight. Most people struggle to hit 200lbs even with working out regularly, except people who're naturally fat. So I believe Usyk was juicing and his body didn't adapt quickly to the new mass in terms of performance in sparring, hence they used injury as a coverup. If it was just about the injury - they would've picked a more legit opponent for him, not a bummy kick boxer.

In the Bellew fight, it had more to do with Bellew being gassed than Usyk's power. Naturally, Bellew fights on the back foot. But against Usyk, he put on weight and went in head hunting, trying to get Usyk out of there in the first 6 rds. He'd hit Usyk clean a few times but ended up gassing out and Usyk capitalised on that. Also, Bellew has never been a good boxer even in his prime and he was past his prime in that fight. But if a natural HW had hit Usyk cleanly the way Bellew did - I doubt Usyk would've come out of the ring smiling.

[MDPopescu]

I only watched Spong almost 10 ya, when he was in K1 and beat Ray Sefo, Melvin Manhoef and Peter Aerts...

[BangEM]

You are such a little b'itch boy.

You get upset like "AJ's never failed a test how dare you accuse him of juicing" and go posting about how Usyk is juicing with no evidence or knowledge whatsoever on even his size or teams tactics.

They've literal comeout and said he won't be looking to gain weight intentionally I pressume whatever he does will be natural from not having to make 200lbs anymore and for a guy that walks around 6'3 at 220lbs inbetween fights he won't need to put much on.

You make it embarrasing to be a fan of AJ and come on this forum.

You're an idiot and a fu..cking shythead. Who gives a fu..ck if you're an AJ fan or not? And what has AJ got to do with this?

It seems your mum dropped you on your head as a kid for you tell me I can't have an opinion on what I think a boxer moving up in weight from his natural weight is doing. Usyk is natural cruiserweight and has been at that weight since I saw him in the amateurs. So if he walks around at 220lbs between fights - then he's juicing.

Also, most of the cruiserweights that moved up in weight were on PED. Holyfield and David haye are classic examples. You've never been to a gym for a day in your life and you think people who aren't fat just move over 200ls like it's very easy to attain. Piss off, man.

[champion4ever]

I fooks with Usyk heavy, but Spong does nothing for Usyk unless it’s just a stay busy filler fight for DAZN with the possibility that Usyk had a really bad injury or they mad insecure about its current healing.

I want to see Usyk with opportunities for a title sooner than later, but he should be matching up against lower tier fighters that emulate any of the top 5 for the 2020-2021 prep. Usyk is basically Crawford’s age, and the timing needs to be right.

Spong, another former MMA fighter whom was once skinny like Jarrell Miller to now being HUGE and boxing... I don’t mind proper former Kickboxers like Algieri or Lipinets etc..but Usyk should be prepping for pure boxers only.

I see people cheering this Spong fight, which is basically a cherry pick, but we complain about Rocky Fielding or Brandon Adams or Steve Rolls...

So how serious could this injury be that they got Spong?

No, it was a bogus injury. Usyk ducked Carlos Takam twice. He has some real serious insecurity issues fighting at this heavyweight division.