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    #11
    Originally posted by Kaspa9t9 View Post
    I reckon I could be the best HW in the world right now if I could avoid Wilder's right and left hands.
    lol...………………….

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      #12
      Solid fighter but who has he beaten? I mean Dillian freaking Whyte was a kickboxer and he already has been better boxers in his short time as a boxer than Ortiz. Just because he is Cuban doesn’t mean he is great. He has solid technics but what did he do with those technics when he faced Wilder?

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        #13
        Ortiz sucks right now. He is a 40 y/o (probably older) with high blood pressure who got KTFO by Wilder in the first fight. Aside from that his best win is Jennings and he never won anything significant in the amateurs or pro's...that's the reality

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          #14
          Of course he is. He has had 54 years to perfect his craft!

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            #15
            Ortiz has only lost two rounds in his entire career and he was winning those rounds until Wilder caught him.

            Even at his age, he would embarrass everyone. Wilder better be careful because if it goes 12, Ortiz wins.

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              #16
              Idk bout that. He'll get his chances doe so we'll see.

              I think mainly hes a guy whos done what hes supposed to vs lesser opposition & then came up short, if competitively, in his biggest fight.

              I try to never hype a guy too much whos biggest fight is an L. Its easy to get behind those types cuz "next time" but I've seen next time never come often & I've seen the same failure when it did & far far far more often then does one turn into Azumah Nelson when he got his 2nd big fight.

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                #17
                Originally posted by DuckAdonis View Post
                Ortiz sucks right now. He is a 40 y/o (probably older) with high blood pressure who got KTFO by Wilder in the first fight. Aside from that his best win is Jennings and he never won anything significant in the amateurs or pro's...that's the reality
                From a technical standpoint is he good or no? Don't let your Wilder obsession cloud an honest assessment.

                Ortiz and Povetkin are still some of the best in the division, they're just old.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Mammoth View Post
                  From a technical standpoint is he good or no? Don't let your Wilder obsession cloud an honest assessment.

                  Ortiz and Povetkin are still some of the best in the division, they're just old.
                  Ortiz and Povetkin are two quality fighters, elite, Ortiz a top 5. Both get dragged into deep, dark, dangerous waters and drowned by Fury. He's too dangerous, too skilled, wizard like ring IQ. No escaping his wrath.

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                    #19
                    Ruiz would school him.

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