168lb Division, Who Beats Who?

[WallabeeKing]

I think Saunders beats all of them. Think Benavidez is the next best and would beat the rest of the division.

Callum is on the rise because his N'Dam and Groves performances but it seems like people forgot Skoglund piecing him up and looking bad against Holzken.

I still think Plant is too green to fúck with the class of the division.

Think Eubank Jr and Braehmer, if he has anything left, are the wild cards of the division and would give anybody at 168 trouble.

[Eff Pandas]

Callum is on the rise because his N'Dam and Groves performances but it seems like people forgot Skoglund piecing him up and looking bad against Holzken.

Those two fights are the main reasons I'm not seeing what many of these "Callum is #1" guys are seeing.

I still think Plant is too green to fúck with the class of the division.

Definitely green in comparison to the others, but that Jose U win was pretty impressive to me. I didn't see that KO coming. Expected Jose to win & if not expected a boring decision. A Plant KO wasn't on my radar at all.

Maybe I'm overranking him cuz he surprised me personally so much doe idk.

Think Eubank Jr and Braehmer, if he has anything left, are the wild cards of the division and would give anybody at 168 trouble.

I like Eubank Jr, but I think he's too uncoachable to ever beat a tip top guy. He can probably beat some top ten guys, he can probably beat some ex-tip top guys if they fall off like DeGale, but I'm not expecting any serious W's at the top of the division by him unless he gets a real trainer & probably gets his dad out of his career.

[bulldognyc]

Top dog is probably plant right now. Smith and Benavidez aren’t too far behind. BJS isn’t really part of the mix. He holds belts hostage and fights once every 18 months. Canelo is a fun addition and I believe he competes there again. I also think we see Jacobs and GGG enter the mix soon. And maybe even Bivol. I’d like to see plant vs Benavidez because of their beef. And I’d like to see Eubanks get in there as well. He makes for fun violent fights.

[boliodogs]

I think Saunders beats all of them. Think Benavidez is the next best and would beat the rest of the division.

Callum is on the rise because his N'Dam and Groves performances but it seems like people forgot Skoglund piecing him up and looking bad against Holzken.

I still think Plant is too green to fúck with the class of the division.

Think Eubank Jr and Braehmer, if he has anything left, are the wild cards of the division and would give anybody at 168 trouble.

I have not seen all of Smith's fights so I may have him overrated. The fights I have seen of his have impressed me. What has Saunders done good since his good win over Lemieux?

[WallabeeKing]

Those two fights are the main reasons I'm not seeing what many of these "Callum is #1" guys are seeing.



Definitely green in comparison to the others, but that Jose U win was pretty impressive to me. I didn't see that KO coming. Expected Jose to win & if not expected a boring decision. A Plant KO wasn't on my radar at all.

Maybe I'm overranking him cuz he surprised me personally so much doe idk.



I like Eubank Jr, but I think he's too uncoachable to ever beat a tip top guy. He can probably beat some top ten guys, he can probably beat some ex-tip top guys if they fall off like DeGale, but I'm not expecting any serious W's at the top of the division by him unless he gets a real trainer & probably gets his dad out of his career.

The Plant-Uzcategui fight went 12 didn't it? Admittedly I haven't watched it since, but I just remember Uzcategui getting dropped multiple times.

I had a little 30 dollars or so on Plant that, but I'm with you, I wasn't expecting that all. But Uzcategui looked horrible that night, like worst I ever seen him, looked like he wasn't even trying. I even thought he may have even threw that fight for whatever reason if I can put my tinfoil hat on. But fair play to Plant if that was all him. I just don't think he could hang with top level guys just yet.

On Eubank Jr, yeah Degale was done already, but Eubank really put a beating on him. Looked like he stepped up a level in that fight imo.

[Jsmooth9876]

Benavides seems like a stud but we haven't seen him with an A level opponent yet. He's gonna smash Dirrel in Sept.

Don't forget BJS, the guy can box his azz off and probably could beat any of them if he's on that night.

Smith beat one faded guy and nobody else so who knows with him either.

Plant looks solid his last few fights. White chocolate with that slick style lol
Ramirez seems like a B level guy to me. Theres a reason hes had 40 fights and never a marquee name on his record.

[WallabeeKing]

I have not seen all of Smith's fights so I may have him overrated. The fights I have seen of his have impressed me. What has Saunders done good since his good win over Lemieux?

Yeah, Saunders had that stay busy 6 rounder and that fight against Isufi where he stayed in 2nd gear for most of the fight. I just think he's steps it up and goes super saiyan when knows he has a real challenge in front of him.

In the Lemieux, Andy Lee, Eubank fights, where he was an underdog or
a very slight favorite, he's put on a great performance. His best form is way ahead the others' best form imo.

[DuckAdonis]

I might be one of the few that would pick Plant over Benavidez rn. If Benavidez improves and gets better I'll change my pick on that fight. He is still very young

[DuckAdonis]

Ok let's imagine a 168 WBSS again. This is based on who I would like to see in it.

#1Callum Smith Vs Braehmer

#2 Caleb Plant Vs Chris Eubank Jr

#3 Benavidez Vs Anthony Dirrell

#4 Saunders Vs Uzcategui


Winners of #1 and #4 fight and winners of #2 and #3 fight. How does it go?

#1. I think Callum Smith would have real trouble dealing with the slick and experienced Braehmer. I think Smith might land a couple of good counters and hurt Braehmer at some point but he won't finish him. Callum Smith wins a close UD, about 116-112 ish

#2. To be honest with you I think Plant takes Eubank Jr to school. I think Plant's style is all wrong for him. The jab alone will make Eubank guessing all night. Probably will be Plants best performance to date considering the competition. Plant wins by wide UD, 117-111 or 118-110

#3. Another breakout performance. This fight is scheduled to actually happen on the Spence-Porter undercard. Benavidez pressures Dirrell early on and I think Anthony will fold in the middle rounds. He will land some good counters from time to time but Benavidez pressure and body attack will get to him. Dirrell gets broken down and stopped around the 7th or 8th round. Benavidez wins by TKO

#4. Saunders has the advantage as far as styles go. Saunders is a quick slick southpaw with good footwork. We all know Uzcategui has been outboxed before, also by a southpaw named Matt Korobov who he had alot of trouble with. So yes I think Saunders wins but not as easily as some might think. If Saunders isn't really fit he can get caught in this fight. But let's assume he is...I think he will outbox Uzcategui pretty comfortably early on. But as the fight goes on Saunders will start making more mistakes and he might slip up here and there and get caught with something that buzzes him. In the end Saunders keeps Uzcategui guessing with his jab and straight left behind it while circling the ring. He wins a UD and goes through some scary moments

[Jsmooth9876]

Ok let's imagine a 168 WBSS again. This is based on who I would like to see in it.

#1Callum Smith Vs Braehmer

#2 Caleb Plant Vs Chris Eubank Jr

#3 Benavidez Vs Anthony Dirrell

#4 Saunders Vs Uzcategui


Winners of #1 and #4 fight and winners of #2 and #3 fight. How does it go?

#1. I think Callum Smith would have real trouble dealing with the slick and experienced Braehmer. I think Smith might land a couple of good counters and hurt Braehmer at some point but he won't finish him. Callum Smith wins a close UD, about 116-112 ish

#2. To be honest with you I think Plant takes Eubank Jr to school. I think Plant's style is all wrong for him. The jab alone will make Eubank guessing all night. Probably will be Plants best performance to date considering the competition. Plant wins by wide UD

All the favorites in round 1.
Benavidez vs Saunders in finals. Both those fights could go,either way though just MO.

Saunders avoids benavides and out boxes him to a win.

Great fights though. Wish that really was the tournament