Boo-Boo gets no love! How you gonna be the WBO MW Champ, yet you're a "distant third" option, and Kovalev is not even signed to DAZN? Disrespectful!
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Originally posted by alexjust View PostThis is no longer bi-party negotiations. The third one is DAZN and they might side with GGG on location. I'd say Canelo has leverage, but probably not "THAT much leverage to demand the location" I for one would be happy to see Canelo being put in line for one. It won't be WBC, let's be honest
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Originally posted by Kiowhatta View PostI find it highly su****ious that Canelo is dragging out a third fight with GGG, especially telling id it's based on the requirement that he only fight in his 'safety nest' of Vegas, where we all know he is likely to get the nod again.
Alvarez doesn't care as much about belts as long as there is one on the line. If he won't fight Andrade, Charlo is just unreachable at PBC, then FFS just fight Golovkin in September.
He is already past his prime, and if Alvarez drags it out even just another year or more - a win would be seriously tarnished as GGG would be closer to 40, and fans may even turn away in droves as a protest meaning DAZN doesn't look like making a profit.
With 10 fights to go, everyone knows the likelihood most of them will probably be at 168, catchweight and maybe 175. ( and I doubt GGG will move up until the end of his contract as he is a natural MW)
but if he wants respect, finish the business you started 3 friggin years ago. Fight or vacate do we can finally see some fights at 160 we've been waiting along time for.
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Originally posted by Bronx2245 View PostBoo-Boo gets no love! How you gonna be the WBO MW Champ, yet you're a "distant third" option, and Kovalev is not even signed to DAZN? Disrespectful!
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Originally posted by Shadoww702 View PostNothing! But no matter what fools gonna say he ducking Smith/Kovalov/GGG/Insert Name Here boxers. I say get that last belt then drop them all. IBF already threatening him for not fighting Sergiy next when they even let ggg fight Vanes before they dropped him.
Also you know how they pay the other guys in this subscription sht?? I don’t understand why DAZN saying Oscar has to negotiate???
Like Kovalov said Oscar low balled him??? We know DAZN pays Canelo but does the other boxer get paid in part of Canelo’s money or Oscar has to pay them?? I would think DAZN would be the one doing the negotiations???
Who paid Rolls and Fielding???
And I'm not sure who pays the opponents.... I think is oscar gets a percentage of money every so often and he's expected to use that money to make fights. So I think Oscar pays the opponents and the other fighters under Golden Boy promotions.
Canelo's money is his to keep.
The $365 million he signed up for is his. Granted he's gotta pay taxes and his trainers and Oscar gets a percentage of that too but none of that money goes to Canelo's opponents. They get paid from a different source of income.
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Originally posted by Brettcappe View PostAndrade is deserving just hope their styles mesh. Could be great, could be a stinker. I don't see Andrade beating Canelo but stranger things have happened!
I think Canelo will win but it'll be a slow, ugly fight with Andrade moving alot and being mostly inactive...
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Originally posted by Boxing Logic View PostGood for DAZN. If Canelo is not willing to fight the most interesting opponents (prime GGG years ago, Bivol now, Gvozdyk within the next 12 months, Beterbiev immediately before he ages another day, David Benavidez at 168), then the least DAZN can do is enforce that he has to fight one of the at least semi-interesting opponents, like old GGG or old Kovalev.
That's really as low as the bar should go. Even those nearly 40 year old opponents are quite a low bar to be paying someone 35 million to fight. Canelo is such a diva he has fooled a lot of fans into having extremely low expectations of him, apparently including DAZN, the point is, you really can't go any lower than that. Near 40 year old GGG or Kovalev, that should be the bare minimum quality of opponent. Smith is unproven and looks B-level to me. Andrade is unproven and looks B-level to me. Charlo lost to old Korobov. Billy Joe has limited power and almost lost to Chris Eubank Jr. His rep, like Smith's, is higher than his talent level due to facing Lemieux once Lemieux was way past it at 160 and injured.
The only top prime fighters in the weight range are Bivol, Gvozdyk, and maybe Beterbiev depending how much he hast left. And maybe Benavidez, he has the talent but is unproven as well. But at least his speed and power are for real, unlike Callum Smith who has poor speed, and whose power is IMO overrated.
And the only past prime fighters who were so good in their primes that even near 40, they still pose at least some challenge for prime Canelo, are GGG and Kovalev.
That's it. Those are the only names Canelo should be fighting until his DAZN deal is done. Not Smith, not Andrade, not Charlo, not Zurdo barring a big win at 175.
I mean, how many choices does 185-190 pound Canelo need? 10? 15? 20? 5 really isn't enough?
1. Bivol at 175
2. Gvozdyk at 175
3. Bivol at 168 if Bivol proves he's still himself at that weight before fighting Canelo in his 2nd fight at 168
4. Kovalev at 175
5. GGG at 160
6. David Benavidez at 168
7. Benavidez vs Plant winner at 168 for the future
That's 5 opponent options right now, two for the future. If Canelo fights anyone else in his next 7 fights on DAZN, we'll know his claims about chasing legacy were a lie. This isn't like GGG where he couldn't get the fights he wanted. Canelo can fight whoever the ***** he wants, so if he doesn't fight these guys immediately, we'll know it's him, not them, who doesn't want to fight.
Enjoyed reading that and I totally agree with what you wrote.
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Originally posted by Boxing Logic View PostGood for DAZN. If Canelo is not willing to fight the most interesting opponents (prime GGG years ago, Bivol now, Gvozdyk within the next 12 months, Beterbiev immediately before he ages another day, David Benavidez at 168), then the least DAZN can do is enforce that he has to fight one of the at least semi-interesting opponents, like old GGG or old Kovalev.
That's really as low as the bar should go. Even those nearly 40 year old opponents are quite a low bar to be paying someone 35 million to fight. Canelo is such a diva he has fooled a lot of fans into having extremely low expectations of him, apparently including DAZN, the point is, you really can't go any lower than that. Near 40 year old GGG or Kovalev, that should be the bare minimum quality of opponent. Smith is unproven and looks B-level to me. Andrade is unproven and looks B-level to me. Charlo lost to old Korobov. Billy Joe has limited power and almost lost to Chris Eubank Jr. His rep, like Smith's, is higher than his talent level due to facing Lemieux once Lemieux was way past it at 160 and injured.
The only top prime fighters in the weight range are Bivol, Gvozdyk, and maybe Beterbiev depending how much he hast left. And maybe Benavidez, he has the talent but is unproven as well. But at least his speed and power are for real, unlike Callum Smith who has poor speed, and whose power is IMO overrated.
And the only past prime fighters who were so good in their primes that even near 40, they still pose at least some challenge for prime Canelo, are GGG and Kovalev.
That's it. Those are the only names Canelo should be fighting until his DAZN deal is done. Not Smith, not Andrade, not Charlo, not Zurdo barring a big win at 175.
I mean, how many choices does 185-190 pound Canelo need? 10? 15? 20? 5 really isn't enough?
1. Bivol at 175
2. Gvozdyk at 175
3. Bivol at 168 if Bivol proves he's still himself at that weight before fighting Canelo in his 2nd fight at 168
4. Kovalev at 175
5. GGG at 160
6. David Benavidez at 168
7. Benavidez vs Plant winner at 168 for the future
That's 5 opponent options right now, two for the future. If Canelo fights anyone else in his next 7 fights on DAZN, we'll know his claims about chasing legacy were a lie. This isn't like GGG where he couldn't get the fights he wanted. Canelo can fight whoever the ***** he wants, so if he doesn't fight these guys immediately, we'll know it's him, not them, who doesn't want to fight.
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