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    Absolutely wrong to say AJ quit.

    I am a Wilder fan. I wanted it to be Wilder stopping AJ.

    However, I never "disliked" AJ. I just prefer Wilder over AJ and Fury.

    AJ did not quit. I don't know why everyone is so quick to go there. Couldn't it be possible that when a fighter takes a beating, is hurt, especially on the ear, after a while your reaction times slow?

    Not just your reaction times to punches or throwing punches, but how you respond to the ref? I think he knew what the ref may have been asking and he was saying "yes". But when a fighter is hurt badly or over a sustained amount of time, I they may know they want to continue or know they don't want to lose. But their brain and body are just not in sync.

    I think AJ knew the ref was checking if he wanted to continue, but I think he was so dazed and delayed that he couldn't comprehend that in the moment, he wasn't physically responding to the ref to come forward. I feel his instincts were to hold himself up on the ropes and wait for the ref to wave the fight back on.

    I've seen many fighters hurt, signal yes to the ref, the ref wave both fighters back on, and the hurt fighter lean back to the corner to cover up. I simply think AJ wanted to continue, but didn't have full control over his body to clearly walk forward and lift his gloves when the ref needed after those headshots.

    Either way, he wasn't winning the fight. This is more about people saying he straight up quit. He had that Seth Mitchell look after the 4th knockdown. His physical reactions to the ref got worse and worse with each knockdown to the point where he couldn't comprehend what to do. If anything, he may have been waiting for the "mouthpiece break" because I think the ref was holding his mouthpiece after picking it up if I am not mistaken.
    Last edited by TyrantT316; 06-03-2019, 01:02 PM.

    #2
    He quit bro. Stop it

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      #3
      I think he was just gassed and lost.

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        #4
        AJ Quit, not on the Stool, but he Quit

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          #5
          I don't think you can accuse a guy of quitting after getting blasted like that, he started to show negative body language after a war and 4th kd

          He had the fight beat out of him, ref could see it and waived it off. If he'd done that in the 3rd after the first 2 kds then may be I'd agree with people who are saying that

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            #6
            Well he for sure didn't verbally quit you can't even argue that. And maybe you're right that Joshua just didn't have full control of his body, but it seems like he was of sound mind enough to look towards his corner & respond to the ref & to me while his conscious mind wanted to go on his unconscious mind was saying "eff this bs man" & took over. And thats about the best case that it was a body language quit which I tend to think it was.

            But mainly I think lotsa mfers who've never been in a fight think quitting is some ***** & unforgivable sh^t so quitting is deemed some sin against boxing or some such bs. But I think many fans don't need to see a guy KTFO on the ground to know he lost & I got zero problems with all but officially beaten fighter to call it a day to live to fight another day. Its a lil f#cking ****** to lose brain cells for no good reason & at a certain point in a fight its probably better for your long term boxing career & long term life that you just end the fight before you are KTFO on the ground cuz the opportunity to win isn't worth the losses you might take that'll last a lifetime potentially.

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              #7
              I think it was clear he decided not to take anymore punishment and preferred a TKO loss to a KO loss.

              It wasn't as bad as No Mas, but this wasn't exactly going out on your shield. It was a "business decision".

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                #8
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post

                But mainly I think lotsa mfers who've never been in a fight think quitting is some ***** & unforgivable sh^t so quitting is deemed some sin against boxing or some such bs.
                Agree. just because someone quit doesn't necessarily mean he's a ***** or whatever.

                I happen to think AJ quit, but maybe he just didn't have anything left and tthought "*** it i'll get him in the rematch"

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                  #9
                  "AJ, get out of your corner. This isn't a break"

                  He didn't "quit", but he was done. Like OP said, he was so dazed and confused... He was in no shape to defend himself

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                    #10
                    He quit. Period.

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