Comments Thread For: Andy Ruiz, Not Anthony Joshua, Becomes A Star In America

[guitarboyled]

Congratulation Andy! Don’t listen to the trolls and the losers! Body type means nothing... You were the best man by far. More speed, more balls, more power, more precisions, more determination. Also good job on speaking more than one language! Most respect from everyone at our engineering firm! You’re on top of the world! Enjoy the ride and invest wisely.

[OldTerry]

Ruiz got the right situation on one night & he's been fumbling around the HW division for a decade not getting attention or accolades.

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I agree with all of your post except the part about fumbling around. Ruiz was 22 and 1 with 17 KOs and the one loss was highly controversial. I wouldn't attach the phrase fumbling around to an elite fighter with such an outstanding record. My guess is he was viewed as an ordinary fighter based on his physical appearance and not his talent.

[aaronbnb]

Gabriel Iglesias is hilarious. He some great tweets about Ruiz

[OldTerry]

GGG is one of the most popular fighters in boxing today. He sucks at selling PPV's but Cotto was always better as the B side on PPV's to & he was one of the most popular fighters of his time too.



Sh^t man lotsa guys have "potential star power". Very few flip it into real stardom.

Spence & Bud ain't stars so what does it matter if he's got more IG followers then them?

Ryan Garcia is huge on SM & he's not a star. I think people are misunderstanding real popularity & SM popularity too now that you bring it up. SM popularity is a bit of a racket if you know the game. You can buy followers. There are tricks to getting more followers. There are tactics to becoming big on SM basically that don't necessarily mean anything in the real world. It means something I don't deny, but calculating true popularity needs a more well rounded approach then merely follower counts.

And maybe Ruiz can be a star in Mexico idk. Its probably worth less money doe. I don't see Ruiz being a star in the US anytime soon I know that. Respect to him on the W, but transitioning that W into stardom isn't an easy thing.

I imagine Ruiz will accept multi-million dollar purses over stardom any day of the week.

[OldTerry]

You hit the nail squarely on the head. With one loss he’ll again become a relatively unknown name and placed back into the annals of obscurity. Boxing fans know the name Buster Douglas. The common man non-boxing fan doesn’t. However the commoner knows the name Mike Tyson. He reached that stardom. It will take quite sometime for Andy to get anywhere close to those levels.

Accepting your logic will mean that AJ will fade into the annals of obscurity, since he now has one loss, right? Many, in fact most boxing legends had losses. Ali, Tyson, Holyfield and the greatest of all time Sugar Ray Robinson. What will make Ruiz, AJ and the rest of today's fighters legends is the body of their work over their entire careers.

[OldTerry]

He doesn’t have the star factor/power. His only chance at being a star is to become a comedian.

Good boxer that won on a night everything worked in his favour and stars aligned for him. But no one will remember him in a few months time and he’s going to do more damage to boxing than help it. Too fat and too weird. He looks like an overgrown teletube baby (no disrespect to him).

You sound like a guy whose fighter lost.

[Eff Pandas]

I agree with all of your post except the part about fumbling around. Ruiz was 22 and 1 with 17 KOs and the one loss was highly controversial. I wouldn't attach the phrase fumbling around to an elite fighter with such an outstanding record. My guess is he was viewed as an ordinary fighter based on his physical appearance and not his talent.

I mean I'm not denying he has some skills or anything like that, but his career has been rather lackluster & lackadaisical even including his controversial L. You could argue he's only been in 2 or 3 live fights in his decade long career & Saturday was one of them & he lost the other one (even if it was controversial). That to me suggests there wasn't much of a path being made by Ruiz & he was just sorta there.

But maybe you are right in that his physical appearance kept Arum from pushing him into more meaningful fights.

[Boxingfanatic75]

Accepting your logic will mean that AJ will fade into the annals of obscurity, since he now has one loss, right? Many, in fact most boxing legends had losses. Ali, Tyson, Holyfield and the greatest of all time Sugar Ray Robinson. What will make Ruiz, AJ and the rest of today's fighters legends is the body of their work over their entire careers.

What I mean is when he takes a loss and go back into obscurity is that he’ll probably be a fringe contender for the rest of his career and not see the title again. Meaning, his 15 minutes ended and that’ll be that. He had the formula for AJ but doubtful he’ll pull it off against the other talent.

[Eff Pandas]

I imagine Ruiz will accept multi-million dollar purses over stardom any day of the week.

Generally you don't get one without the other is the thing. But regardless if Ruiz has star potential or not, he's certainly gonna be getting paid for this rematch & win or lose his hourly rate just went up so respect to him with all that regardless of what the future holds for him beyond money.

[OldTerry]

Also let's not overlook the fact that Andy could very well be the stronger (I mean overall physical strength) man than Joshua. Yes, bodybuilder physique AJ looks stronger than Andy Ruiz; however, over the decades I have known some guys with less than average looking builds (yes, even obese builds) that were tremendously strong as well as coordinated too. And from what I saw in the ring Saturday night, AJ was not the stronger fighter; he could not control Andy (and I don't mean the trouble he faced because of Andy's quicker hands, ability to slip punches, and superior footwork). AJ wanted to wrap up Andy to stop the hurt; however, he was not physically able to so, and I will not be surprised to find out that Andy - from childhood - has always been very, very strong.

I wholeheartedly agree with you. This also puts a little different perspective on the way people should view Adam Kownacki. Back ,I believe in the 40's and 50's there was a very good and very obese fighter named (Two Ton) Tony Galento.