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    #31
    For a fighter to become a PPV star a couple things
    Need to line up all at once for that to happen almost a perfect storm , Boxing is a niche sport there is only room at the very top for maybe 1 or 2 active names to be PPV earners who can stay in the Avg American sports fans consciousness and have them willing to pay when they fight

    It’s always a positive to have a large established fan base who support fighters they consider their own whether It’s nationality/race or whatever . It’s not a necessity but makes the chances of crossing over much easier

    They need to have a either a personality that craves the spotlight and can draw people in whether that makes people invested enough to watch them win or lose it doesn’t Matter just that their invested. If the fighter doesn’t have the personality they need their promoter or team to Keep promoting them and always be in the publics through media profiles or interviews. They need to be in the public’s mind

    They need more then a handful of opponents who theyre willing to fight in and around their weight class that are considered elite fighters and proven names that also generate revenue on their own so a fight between the 2 is seen as a big event that can get even non boxing fans interested in the fight. This can’t happen just once in their career but at least every couple years .they need
    To be involved in these types of big event fights that cross over to the mainstream consistently to always be in the forefront of the sport and be seen as they’re always in big fights to the avg sports fan.

    And finally they dont need to have just personality/Team to always be in the public and constantly be in the biggest fights in the sport fighting elite fighters who are draws themselves. They also need to be almost a ATG talent or at least be their Eras best. So when they get these big fights where the most eyeballs are watching when the fight the best . They almost always should win these big fights. If a fighter always loses their high profile fight their fambase and popularity will quickly diminish. Being a great fighter is the most important factor

    Sometimes a fighter has the personality and be a great fighter but doesn’t have enough high profile opponents to fight in their career that’ll push them over the edge. ( Roy Jones ) or they have the talent and enough high profile opponents but don’t have the the personality to capture the public’s attention ( Bernard Hopkins )

    You need all this to fall into place to even have a chance to be a crossover PPV star in the States who can capture the mind of the public and have a large amount of people willing to pay when you fight.

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      #32
      Because white americans moved over to mma and black ppl dont support their fighters with their money. Ppv in the us is done because its driven by mexicans and now the biggest mexican dont fight on ppv anymore

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        #33
        Because there are NEVER any close fights......ONLY ROBBERIES...
        Its Refs are crooked......ONLY ROBBERIES
        punchstats are wrong....ONLY ROBBERIES
        commentators are wrong for speaking the truth and biased when their preferred fighter doesnt win its ONLY ROBBERIES
        according to its fans

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          #34
          When has there ever been ALL THESE PPV STARS?

          A PPV star is rare & when Floyd & Manny were around we kinda got spoiled cuz there has never been two big PPV stars at the same time like that. The fact they are 1 & 2 in all time PPV sales & regularly sold 1M+ PPVs in the same year as each other show how unique that was.

          There is usually one big PPV star. Right now we got two still growing PPV stars in Canelo & AJ. And sh^t honestly its probably a insult to act like Canelo isn't already a PPV star cuz he's the 6th highest grossing PPV seller in boxing history (Floyd, Manny, Mike, Oscar & Evander are still above him). The switch to DAZN is gonna stagnate those numbers but they are impressive numbers already.

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            #35
            Originally posted by lparm View Post
            Because mma is creating the combat stars like Conor, Ronda, Brock etc

            Boxing isn’t there anymore and needs major help
            Brock was a star when he went there, which is why they gave big money and a title shot to someone who was 0-0 and had no experience.


            Rhonda and Connor are huge stars. Known for taking L's

            nobody even remembers who Rhonda even is. Connor won't be too far behind.

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              #36
              Originally posted by hectari View Post
              How come its so hard to build new PPV stars?

              Pacquiao and Floyd are the last crossover stars

              Canelo is up thre but his name isnt really household in America. I feel if he spoke English he would be a huge mega star but he refuses to learn English

              Most people I know dont order his fights unless they are mexican decent or latino, but with Pac and Floyd they had people from all races in America buying their fights, same with Oscar

              why is it hard for these younger boxers to become stars on ppv you would think it would be easier with the social media and internet

              Is it because they just dont have that It factor to them nothing unique to their style or personality?

              Pacquiao was a berserker non stop come forward wild man with no fear, Floyd was a brash talking villian, Oscar the pretty golden boy.

              None of these younger guys really stand out.

              it's so hard just because the "PPV era" (on TV) is somehow dead (as a "business model")... that's why Canelo and AJ switched to DAZN...

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                #37
                Originally posted by hectari View Post
                Pacquiao and Floyd are the last crossover stars

                Canelo is up thre but his name isnt really household in America. I feel if he spoke English he would be a huge mega star but he refuses to learn English

                Most people I know dont order his fights unless they are mexican decent or latino, but with Pac and Floyd they had people from all races in America buying their fights, same with Oscar

                why is it hard for these younger boxers to become stars on ppv you would think it would be easier with the social media and internet

                Is it because they just dont have that It factor to them nothing unique to their style or personality?

                Pacquiao was a berserker non stop come forward wild man with no fear, Floyd was a brash talking villian, Oscar the pretty golden boy.

                None of these younger guys really stand out.
                It’s because Floyd (through no fault of his own) never really passed the torch the same way ODLH did via losing to the new stars. For example imagine how much bigger Canelo would be had he of beaten Floyd.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Bjl12 View Post
                  ******s like this are what's wrong with boxing and the world in general.

                  Floyd fought Ghost Guerrero and Victor Ortiz - both much younger and given the chance to build their own legacy

                  And, you're either too dumb or ******ed, Ca$h-fucking-nelo. Canelo lost against Floyd in what remains a Top 5 PPV ever. It was a great event and had a phenomenal undercard...2012 or 2013.

                  That was the definition of a torch-passing fight. Canelo wasn't ready.

                  And there were no available good fighters during Floyd's ascension. Thurman, Porter, and Garcia remain NOBODIES. None of them wanted the fight and all of them would've lost the fight.

                  It's a shame Terrence Crawford doesn't have a personality. He would've made a good scrap against an aging Floyd
                  Posters or fanboys like you are the reason Floyd is content with fighting the least risk highest reward. If you want to say Robert fawking Guerrero and victor ortrees were any threat then that goes to show you don’t sh it about boxing. Floyd is the cash cow and everybody wants it wanted him again red k says a lot and again you don’t sh it about boxIng. Stay in your lane son

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by moochi View Post
                    Canelo is only PPV because of the Mexicans in USA, outside of that, he would be average.
                    Yup, mexicans get behind him, and there are a lot of mexicans in cali and texas which is where 90 percent of his ppv buys comes from. he doesnt have much crossover fans. If he spoke english he would.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Chuckguy View Post
                      Because both manny and Floyd have a PPV god in Oscar de la Hoya to pass the torch. Floyd never gave a young guy the opportunity like he was given by Oscar. Manny has yet to do so but maybe he can pass his torch to either Thurman or Spence
                      Pacquiao has given young guys a chance, tim bradley beat him, didnt become a star, he gave algieri, rios and vargas chances they lost, jeff horn beat him he is big in aussie land but not america. And just recently gave broner a shot.

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