Comments Thread For: Deontay Wilder, Tyson Fury Ends in Controversial Draw

[AlexKid]

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[BeLikeWater]

Of course he can more than before this fight. But based on this result he did not get more leverage to negotiate a better deal with AJ. He sc****d by. If he beat Fury by KO - his stock would have gone up significantly. Surviving controversially against what probably should have been a Fury's points win does not get you any significant leverage. And Hearn knows that. And if there is a rematch in the UK, Wilder will only see the AJ fight if AJ decides to give it to him as a charity. No way Wilder would have won that fight in the UK. He, in the opinion of so many, shouldn't have won in the US. So, yeah, he should have taken the AJ fight. He would have a better chance of winning and would have made way more money than fighting Fury.

He would have made slightly more money and gotten his career ended. In this scenario he got in an easy fight that resulted in minimal damage and maximal cash. Business.. plus he still has a belt aj needs and aj looks like a bih rn..

[BeLikeWater]

Do you know how to score a fight.

Effective aggression? Not who acts like the bigger jackass..

[Yaconcha]

Ok, let’s de-frag this statement.
“The 6-feet-9, 256½-pound Fury, meanwhile, remains boxing’s lineal heavyweight champion because he hasn’t lost the four titles he won from Wladimir Klitschko in the ring. Fury, 30, vacated those crowns two years ago to seek treatment for alcoholism, ******* addiction and depression, and didn’t box for 2½ years”.
First point, four titles? No wbc title in there.
The lineal champ would also own the wbc which is in fact the golden egg in the boxing world.
Second point, titles vacated means exactly that VACATED.
fury in whatever fashion vacated the titles, in actual fact the IBF title was taken from him prior to him vacating the remaining titles so actually people, fury gave away the “lineal title” at that point. (Although it’s still not the lineal title unless unified with ALL the other belts).
Third point, fury then vacated the belts and remember this people, he walked around for ages before going on his “trip” without committing to the rematch with the big klitchko for months! What about that? Oh yeah I remember, they stripped the IBF title.
So, it brings me to point out that not only was one of the titles taken (reducing his status as lineal champion) but the remaining titles were vacated.
Another question, what if he retired after his treatment for the issues he had? Is it then and only then that he isn’t the lineal champ no more? What if he backed out of the fight with wilder or from here on decides to just sit around and do nothing? Still lineal champion?
In short, no. Ibf stripped and lineal title vacated and game over at that point.
Finally, going back to the big Klitschko, his brother held the wbc crown for a while whilst he was other champ but they refused to fight each other but my question is, why call the big Klitschko lineal champ when he NEVER held the WBC title?
Example: mike Tyson held ALL the belts and Klitschko or fury has never owned the WBC title at any time. ????

If fury remains unbeaten on his fight card and just stops without saying anything or states he’s retiring without losing in the ring (as his fans claim) he would be the lineal champion forever. Yeah that works! But it doesn’t does it, just like when titles get vacated, somebody else fights for it. It’s all well and good saying the man that beat the man but let’s face it, what if he don’t face Tony Joshua? To me that’s the man he should be aiming at because that’s “THEE MAN” he has to beat to reclaim what he says is his. Then, and only then would he genuinely be the lineal champ he claims but not because he does not hold the WBC belt too.

[vwelsh]

Now you're changing your argument, if you think he got a draw based on actual accurate scoring then that is at least feasible, even if I don't agree. But you injected yourself into an argument about the actual adding up, which your buddy still seems to be confused about

In fact in your first post that is also what you said, words don't lie, now youre backtracking. Im not going to get dragged into your goading either so nice try. I'm laughing at the fact that hard-core boxing fans who post on a boxing forum can't score a fight. You can call me judgemental or whatever, but I think that's pretty dumb, and funny, so I'll share my laughter.

I’m not sure who my buddy is kiddo. My point is that I can understand how someone can get a draw. I don’t agree with the lopsided wilder card. That is not possible. You brought up your “tenure” on these forums like anyone gives a damn. As your mom for warm milk and take a nap. You’ll feel better tomorrow.

[Corelone]

Tyson is still the man who beat the man. He is still lineal champion. AJ's claims to Fury's titles deminish in the mind.

[markther]

Fury....

[hitking]

I think Wilder would've thrown more punches had he actually been landing what he was throwing. We tend to see this in boxer/brawler match-ups. All that swinging and missing was zapping his confidence and stamina.

He could also fight Whyte, assuming he beats Chisora. However, Wilder isn't trying to do anything that benefits Hearn.

Fury is Mayweather-esque in that his opponents tend to always throw far less punches than normal. And fans tend to think its coincidence. Or the opponent not doing enough. Not giving enough credit to a guy like Fury or Floyd making them throw less.

Either way, when I said Wilder made correctable mistakes. I meant that he could find more effective ways to land his right hand, which Fury was taking away. Wilder was basically the equivalent of a offense in football ****ing their heads against a wall trying to run the ball when the defense had the box loaded. You have to adjust and pass to setup the run. Wilder could have fainted more. He could have led with a hook. He could have changed the trajectory of his right hand and threw it straight instead of looping it. Like the one that scored the KD in the twelfth. He could have done a lot of things instead of following Fury around the ring waiting for a perfectnshot that almost never came.

[sunny31]

I’m not sure who my buddy is kiddo. My point is that I can understand how someone can get a draw. I don’t agree with the lopsided wilder card. That is not possible. You brought up your “tenure” on these forums like anyone gives a damn. As your mom for warm milk and take a nap. You’ll feel better tomorrow.

The original poster I was replying to about the adding up. The only one who seems to bent out of shape is you as your starting to make it personal now haha.

I wasn't bringing my tenure up, the point is I can't believe I've come across three people on the same thread that can't add up the scoring the right way, and I don't recall that happening in all my time. It's called emphasising a point.

I'm 35, I wish my mother was still around to bring me hot milk

[AneesMoha]

Yep precisely, because this champion4ever doesn't get it any other way. I just want to show him that 8-4 with 2 knockdowns isn't a draw, which after several pages he's still convinced it is.

Oh you could of just said
Wilder lost 8 rounds : 8x9=72
Wilder won 4 rounds: 10x4= 40
72+40=112

Fury won 8 rounds : 10x8 = 80
Fury lost 2 rounds : 9x2= 18
Fury got knocked down in 2 rounds
8x2=16

80+18+16 = 114

Fury wins 114-112

You got to spoon feed people on the interwebs bro. Lol