Comments Thread For: Pacquiao vs. Horn Scoring: Mitra Received Final Explanation

[daggum]

Point me to ANY credible source that weighs anything higher than anything else.

I get it, you're salty that Jeff 'The Hornet' Horn walked Manny down for seven rounds and won. Don't change the fact that he won based on three of the four criteria.

so pac won clean punching but lost defense? how does that work? horn wasn't landing cleanly means pac had better defense. or do you have some other way of spinning it?

[robbyheartbaby]

It was perfectly fine when Manny robbed Marquez but it's a crime when Horn got the nod smh. Some decisions are right some are wrong, at the end of the day the WBO had it rescored and came up with the same result, big deal move on.

[Combat Talk Radio]

It was perfectly fine when Manny robbed Marquez but it's a crime when Horn got the nod smh. Some decisions are right some are wrong, at the end of the day the WBO had it rescored and came up with the same result, big deal move on.

They won't move on. They can't accept what they saw: Jeff 'The Hornet' Horn beating a Pacquiao who took the guy lightly and paid for it. Struggling to fight a school teacher.

115-113 - Jeff "The Hornet" Horn.

[shawn4943]

Point me to ANY credible source that weighs anything higher than anything else.

I get it, you're salty that Jeff 'The Hornet' Horn walked Manny down for seven rounds and won. Don't change the fact that he won based on three of the four criteria.

I get it, you dksab. I don't even now why I am even talking to someone on a boxing forum who thinks those 4 criteria are equally weighted?

You could make me miss every shot, but one, in a round, but if you don't land one back on me, I won the round. See how landed punches count more than defense now?

I am not salty. I'm not a fan boy. My loyalty lies with boxing. If I think he lost the fight I would say it.

Pac also won on defense. Horn only landed 15% of his shots. Even if compubox was very very wrong on Horns land percentage and he landed 30% of his punches Pac still had the better defense.

In your mind, I guess it should have been a draw then, since Pac won on 2 of the 4 criteria?

[Combat Talk Radio]

You could make me miss every shot, but one, in a round, but if you don't land one back on me, I won the round. See how landed punches count more than defense now?

Why did you miss every shot?

- you were effectively defensive to where you were not damaged by anything (Saunders/Lemieux): You won that criteria
- you were ring general, meaning you were leading the opponent to follow you and their punches were consistently out of range (Mayweather/Hatton). You won that criteria
- You landed a shot, the opponent didn't (Loma/Rigo) - You won that criteria
- You weren't aggressive at all (Crawford/Postol). You lost that criteria

3/4 - you won that round.

This isn't rocket science, dude.

In your mind, I guess it should have been a draw then, since Pac won on 2 of the 4 criteria?

Most people would have been okay with a draw, myself included. I actually did have quite a few swing rounds, and round 3 in particular was a toss-up. But this notion that Manny got "robbed" is a joke promoted by Teddy Atlas' ranting.

When you score the fight round by round, and you stop focusing only on punches, you start seeing what really happened:

Horn was only really hurt in one round - Round 9, everyone agrees he lost, even then he never left his feet, never stopped throwing, so he was still in it. Round 10 comes around, Manny gets dejected he couldn't make the guy quit. Even Roach said it: Manny should have taken the guy out in 10 and he failed.

Meanwhile, Manny was staggered in at least 6 rounds, bullied for at least 7 rounds, and on the backfoot for 9 rounds. He only looked dominant in three rounds.

As someone else mentioned, Manny showed up 1 minute of most of the rounds except 8 and 9. Horn was there all night long, his aggression and pressure never stopped.