My thoughts on Mayweather and PEDs

[ADP02]

You ****king moron. THE INVESTIGATION IS THE TUE APPLICATION. HOW THE FUVVCK DO YOU THINK THIS WORKS??? Not only that, but THEIR DCO WAS THERE THE WHOLE TIME. HOW THE F**** CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THEY DIDN'T INTERVIEW KEY WITNESSES WHEN THEIR OWN DCO WAS PRESENT YOU ******????


Remember when you were embarrassed by talking about Salazar? Maybe you should have remembered what he said about the process!


"Kara Goucher’s claim that someone can make a couple of statements to a doctor and get a TUE is absurd and demeaning to the TUE processes of USADA and the IAAF.

The USADA and IAAF TUE process is very rigorous process. Medical doctors must submit substantial medical records to support an athlete’s request for a TUE. The medical professionals at the IAAF and/or USADA then closely scrutinize those documents. It is serious process and review. It is not a rubber stamp that can be easily manipulated."

You do remember this, right? You remember trying to brag and say that was proof that the TUE process could be manipulated, until I stomped you out by showing that if anything he AVOIDED the TUE process. Come back and lie about this so I can stomp you out again

YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FVCCK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. YOU'RE JUST A BUTTHURT FAN THAT CAN'T LET IT GO!


So take that rubber stamp shlt you keep bringing up....and shove it up your ass

Sorry but you were WRONG as usual.

First of all you screwed up big time saying that Salazar never went over the IV limit.

Secondly, you are using the cheats version while I prefer sticking with all the witnesses that said otherwise.

Salazar was trying to get that extra edge for his athletes no matter how he got it.




It's becoming hilarious.

- Salazar the cheat --> You are his defendant LOL

- Nick Diaz caught with marijuana. Not a surprise as he was caught many times before but again --> --> You are his defendant LOL


- Floyd Mayweather used ILLEGAL BANNED IV.
--> You are his defendant LOL
but I'm still waiting for an explanation as to why he needed an IV when Floyd admits that he walks around at that weight!!! Science does NOT add up!


Did I miss anyone?



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[DeadLikeMe]

The reality is that Mayweather probably cheated. His reaction when asked about TRT told the whole story. He still schooled melonheaded Pacman 10-2. One is sitting on a pile of cash and the other just gutted his whole team to save money

[ADP02]

The reality is that Mayweather probably cheated. His reaction when asked about TRT told the whole story. He still schooled melonheaded Pacman 10-2. One is sitting on a pile of cash and the other just gutted his whole team to save money

Mayweather's BS excuses for using a BANNED ILLEGAL IV put the nail on that PED cheat


Floyd was interviewing right after getting the IV and boasting that he doesn't get drained like other fighters because he walks around 147-150. Man, that interview is golden!!!! CAUGHT!


and of course, Floyd did drink and drink and drink and drink!!!!





Here is Dr Alex Ariza making sure that Floyd is nice and hydrated.


Look at the smile on Floyd's face! LOL

[maracho]

First of all, let me just say that's I'm a Mayweather fan. He's actually the one who got me to follow boxing and transformed me from a casual to a hardcore fan. So I may be partial.

But yes, I did have my su****ious about him and PEDs. I these doubts were trigger when I noticed changed to his jawline and muscle definition when he fought Marquez.

However, I also do believe that he was clean for the most part of his career and that he was clear when the Pacquiao talks started. However, everybody in the industry knew what was going on with Pacquiao. He polluted the division and was a difficult problem to deal with.

First, Mayweather was the one who tried to implement Olympic style testing. He's actually one of the people responsible for what we have today. I don't think that would be logical for someone who's dirty to bring more attention to themselves.

But at some point, he had to realize that even with testing, Pacquiao would still be able to get away with it with the people backing him. So he and others were forced to make a decision. And they took the right one in my opinion. There was no way to catch Pacquiao and facing him clean was not only ******, but dangerous for their safety, record, legacy and profits. So they did what they had to do. In my opinion, there is no shame in cheating against a cheater.

What are your thoughts on the situation. Did you think Pacquiao was clean? And what is be the proper course of action if a dirty and protected fighter is sitting on top of the division?

You conclude institutionalized cheating yet when you insist it could only have been done for Pacman, you are indeed being very impartial for Mayweather, as are his enablers. For instance, Mayweather has had all kinds of ridiculous favors done for him by NSAC, MGM, USADA, etc., and especially when he fought Manny. Secondly, Mayweather's personality is simply all about perception so there is nothing stopping him except the possibility of being caught. Actually quite a few of his own fighters were caught and his own growth spurt also seems to have happened at a relatively late age. And finally, why does the jackrabbit call the tortoise longears?

[travestyny]

You keep on saying this but there is no explanation on this "INVESTIGATION'.

What are you trying to say? Explain it to us all.

Going around in circles,


Floyd's doctor did the investigation?

DCO is the witness?


Inspector Columbo I presume? Case closed!



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Still lying to yourself you butthurt bltch.

What the actual fvvck do you think the TUE application is for?

The information is specifically detailed in the application, it is scrutinized by doctors that are experts on the matter, without the athlete's name ever appearing on the application to maintain anonymity, and then it is accepted or rejected. That's an investigation, you imbecile.

Proof?

Mr. Mayweather was notified by the Doping Control Officer (DCO) at his home around 1:45 pm, prior to Mr. Mayweather relocating to MGM Grand Garden Arena for the weigh-in. From the time of notification, Mr. Mayweather was continuously monitored by the USADA DCO until the sample collection was completed at approximately 8:15 pm

The IV was administered after the athlete had already been notified by the USADA DCO and in the presence of the USADA DCO. In addition, Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to the USADA DCO, who was made aware of the need for the IV due to Mr. Mayweather’s physical condition and who continued to monitor Mr. Mayweather throughout the administration of the IV by the paramedic and thereafter until a full sample was collected from Mr. Mayweather. Mr. Mayweather was never outside the physical presence of the USADA DCO from long before the IV was administered until well after administration when the urine sample collection process was complete.

In a letter from USADA to the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) on May 21, 2015, the NSAC was informed of Mr. Mayweather’s approved The****utic Use Exemption (TUE) and advised that “Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to a USADA doping control officer who was at his home for collection of a sample. Mr. Mayweather provided partial urine samples to USADA both prior to and following the infusion. The urine provided by Mr. Mayweather on May 1, 2015, was subsequently tested and has been reported by the World Anti-Doping Agency accredited laboratory as negative.”

Like most substances and methods on the WADA Prohibited List, the use of IVs in this manner is prohibited without a TUE. When an athlete has an approved TUE, as in the case of Mr. Mayweather, who received a retroactive TUE for his use of an IV containing saline and vitamins, it is not a violation of the WADA rules to use the substance or method. Retroactive TUEs are a standard part of the WADA International Standard for The****utic Use Exemptions (ISTUE).

The TUE Committee which granted a retroactive TUE to Mr. Mayweather relied upon the WADA ISTUE.

You are so dumb that you complain that they didn’t interview any witnesses with also proof of that....and ignoring that their own DCO was a witness you absolute moron.

Give up.

[travestyny]

Sorry but you were WRONG as usual.

First of all you screwed up big time saying that Salazar never went over the IV limit.

Secondly, you are using the cheats version while I prefer sticking with all the witnesses that said otherwise.

Salazar was trying to get that extra edge for his athletes no matter how he got it.




It's becoming hilarious.

- Salazar the cheat --> You are his defendant LOL

- Nick Diaz caught with marijuana. Not a surprise as he was caught many times before but again --> --> You are his defendant LOL


- Floyd Mayweather used ILLEGAL BANNED IV.
--> You are his defendant LOL
but I'm still waiting for an explanation as to why he needed an IV when Floyd admits that he walks around at that weight!!! Science does NOT add up!


Did I miss anyone?



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Still lying, huh?

Care to take it to a dome battle and get embarrassed again?

You get destroyed by me over and over. EPO, Nick Diaz, Salazar, Pac's Shoulder...it don't even matter, dude.

I already stomped you out in a poll thread, then in a one on one debate...how many ways you like getting destroyed, dude?

I know why you have to duck and deflect.

So tell me ADP. Did you say he manipulated the TUE process?

Did the evidence back you up, or did you embarrass yourself again?

Let's get it going, homie. Step up. Don't even think about declining. Hell, I'll even debate you about Nick Diaz. I'll debate you about Salazar. I'll debate you about EPO in a rematch! And it won't take 90 pages. Just one paragraph from me and you know it's over for you.

This time we do it for sig control. Only difference is that we get a mod to agree that if you don't hold up to your end of the bet, you get permanently banned.

Don't bltch out now. You going to accept, or DEFLECT I bet you tuck your tail in your pvssy and waddle off. Now say who's your daddy!

[travestyny]

Sorry bud but your name is the DEFLECTOR!!!! All you do is DEFLECT instead of respond.

I just read your previous responses. You keep on going around in circles but never really respond.


Everyone is calling you out as the DEFLECTOR!!!

Ohhhh. Great. So everybody means you and one dude that I beat up on to the point that he bowed out of the discussion.

Should I bump what people were saying about you after you embarrassed yourself and got the living shlt kicked out of you 4-0 in our debate?

You handpicked you own judges and still lost

Travestyny is your daddy

It's over

[ADP02]

Still lying to yourself you butthurt bltch.

What the actual fvvck do you think the TUE application is for?

The information is specifically detailed in the application, it is scrutinized by doctors that are experts on the matter, without the athlete's name ever appearing on the application to maintain anonymity, and then it is accepted or rejected. That's an investigation, you imbecile.

Proof?




You are so dumb that you complain that they didn’t interview any witnesses with also proof of that....and ignoring that their own DCO was a witness you absolute moron.

Give up.

DCO is NOT qualified to know if Floyd needed an IV!

There was a DCO for Lance Armstrong too on several of those times where Lance cheated right in front of the DCO's own nose!




So Columbo would just read a report and call that an investigation? How nice!


Here is an example of USADA doing an investigation and then providing a RETRO TUE:

“USADA announced today that UFC® athlete Cristiane Justino, of Curitiba, Brazil, has been granted a retroactive The****utic Use Exemption (TUE) ......

After a thorough investigation of the circumstances ......

USADA

Was the "thorough investigation" just the RETRO TUE application that her doctor helped fill out and that they sent to USADA?


NO!

"Cristiane Justino also participated in multiple interviews with USADA’s investigative team and consented to USADA interviewing her physician as well."

USADA

Similarly for remember UFC Athlete, Ian McCall, he received a RETRO TUE for an IV but this guy actually went to the hospital and never fought.

"“After a thorough investigation of the circumstances surrounding the potential violation, which included the retroactive TUE application ........."

The situation of McCall was so severe that doctors initially wanted to perform an emergency surgery to remove his gallbladder but later ruled against it.

Floyd had no investigation for his RETRO TUE. They just read what Floyd's doctor wrote up and stamped that RETRO TUE as approved for Floyd!



Again, who received Floyd's RETRO TUE application?
USADA

Who established the TUEC for Floyd?
USADA


Who can talk to their own USADA TUEC?
USADA


Who could have done a real thorough investigation by investigating and interviewing Floyd, Ellerbe, Ariza, Floyd's doctor, NSAC doctor, verify Floyd's vitals, Floyd's pre-fight examination form, Floyd's interviews, Floyd's weigh-in and 1 month weights, review Floyd drinking and drinking and drinking after the weigh-in, Floyd admitting that 147-150 is actually his walking weight .........?

USADA is the right answer every time!



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[ADP02]

Ohhhh. Great. So everybody means you and one dude that I beat up on to the point that he bowed out of the discussion.

Should I bump what people were saying about you after you embarrassed yourself and got the living shlt kicked out of you 4-0 in our debate?

DEFLECTOR, this is NOT the first time that someone has called you the DEFLECTOR!!!


This has been going on for a while now. Just chalk up another one!




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[travestyny]

So Columbo would just read a report and call that an investigation? How nice!


Here is an example of USADA doing an investigation and then providing a RETRO TUE:


Was the "thorough investigation" just the RETRO TUE application that her doctor helped fill out and that they sent to USADA?


NO!







Similarly for remember UFC Athlete, Ian McCall, he received a RETRO TUE for an IV but this guy actually went to the hospital and never fought.








Floyd had no investigation for his RETRO TUE. They just read what Floyd's doctor wrote up and stamped that RETRO TUE as approved for Floyd!



Again, who received Floyd's RETRO TUE application?
USADA

Who established the TUEC for Floyd?
USADA


Who can talk to their own USADA TUEC?
USADA


Who could have done a real thorough investigation by investigating and interviewing Floyd, Ellerbe, Ariza, Floyd's doctor, NSAC doctor, verify Floyd's vitals, Floyd's pre-fight examination form, Floyd's interviews, Floyd's weigh-in and 1 month weights, review Floyd drinking and drinking and drinking after the weigh-in, Floyd admitting that 147-150 is actually his walking weight .........?

USADA is the right answer every time!



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LMAOOOOOO. YOU COMPLETE UTTER IMBECILE. READ IT AND WEEP!!!!!


1. Your own ****ing information!

"“After a thorough investigation of the circumstances surrounding the potential violation, which included the retroactive TUE application ........."

As you would say...KABOOOOOOM!!!!!

2. Investigation of the circumstances!!!!!

Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to the USADA DCO, who was made aware of the need for the IV due to Mr. Mayweather’s physical condition and who continued to monitor Mr. Mayweather throughout the administration of the IV by the paramedic and thereafter until a full sample was collected from Mr. Mayweather.

NOW TELL US...WHICH OF THE ABOVE SITUATIONS THAT YOU MENTIONED HAD THE USADA DCO PRESENT WHEN EVERYTHING HAPPENED?

I'll wait, fool!