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    #31
    This guy got so much time to cut up all these clips but doesn't even watch the fight for real.

    We're those intentional shots to the back of the head? Or for God sake even the back of the head?

    The ref did warm Loma about hitting in the back of the head and RIGO bent over with his head up to which LOMA replied by bending over with his head pointed down.

    You fight and bend your head over, don't be pissed when you get punched in the head and don't get pissed you can win a fight when you hit the dude less than 3, THREE, times in the round.

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      #32
      Many of your examples weren't really on the back of the head and more on the side.

      Nevertheless, just want to give you my opinion if fighting fouls with fouls is ok.

      So if you have a referee who doesn't see anything and allows a fighter to get away with dirty tactics.
      What exactly are you supposed to do?
      Mares and salido ballpunched agbeko and lomachenko nonstop. You have to get dirty, otherwise you out yourself in a disadvantage.

      What about notorious clincher? Or guys who are leading with their head?
      Although bending below the waist doesn't hurt your opponent, you get a big advantage, because your opponent has much less surface to hit you with, because you are only giving him the back of your head.

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        #33
        Originally posted by satiev1 View Post
        All those punches were legal. There are at the temple on top of the head. 2nd you're a ****ing idiot.
        These punches are literally on the back of the head lmao.

        FOUL #5: Back of Head #4 (3x)



        FOUL #11: Back of Head #9



        FOUL #19: Back of Head #14 (4x)



        Lets throw in a neck push for good measure.

        FOUL #13: Elbow to Neck #4



        Originally posted by asgarth View Post
        Many of your examples weren't really on the back of the head and more on the side.

        Nevertheless, just want to give you my opinion if fighting fouls with fouls is ok.

        So if you have a referee who doesn't see anything and allows a fighter to get away with dirty tactics.
        What exactly are you supposed to do?
        Mares and salido ballpunched agbeko and lomachenko nonstop. You have to get dirty, otherwise you out yourself in a disadvantage.

        What about notorious clincher? Or guys who are leading with their head?
        Although bending below the waist doesn't hurt your opponent, you get a big advantage, because your opponent has much less surface to hit you with, because you are only giving him the back of your head.
        Anything past the ear is considered a rabbit punch.

        So because a guy holds you, you can bite his ear off? Hyperbole sure, but thats insanity. Someone fouls so you can foul to any degree as a result? You're mentally ******ed.

        Originally posted by Socialtwinkie View Post
        This guy got so much time to cut up all these clips but doesn't even watch the fight for real.

        We're those intentional shots to the back of the head? Or for God sake even the back of the head?
        I saw the fight first. You're wrong. Not surprising.

        Yes they were intentional. You are wrong again. You're pretty good at this!
        Last edited by McNulty; 12-17-2017, 07:29 PM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by McNulty View Post
          Not sure why I don't see more people tlaking about this
          Your boy QUIT! there is nothing to talk about.

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            #35
            I'm a diehard Rigotard and I'm salty as fuck about how the fight turned out, but Loma became a dirty fuck'n fighter.

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              #36
              someone is desperate lol is this why he invented a hand injury?

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                #37
                All of those are happening because of Rigo is bending below the waist and dangerously exposing the back of his head. It's really no different from turning you back to the opponent. It's a cowardly way out.

                Here's the thoughts of a Cuban referee with two decades of experience both in the ring as a ref for dozens of world championship fights, and outside as a referee seminar instructor for the WBA, WBO, and Association of Boxing Commissions



                Some Commissions' rules don't clearly prohibit a boxer from turning their back to an opponent or ducking their head in an unsafe manner. Should these practices be allowed? No. Why not? It could lead to a foul or injury and simply put, that is not boxing.

                One thing is when you have a novice boxer doing this and the other is when you have a seasoned professional doing it. Don't hurt me yet. Hold on and read.

                The Whittakers and Judahs of the world bend straight down, face their opponent without losing sight of them and move side-to-side or front to back, while making a concerted attempt to score points.

                A novice boxer doesn't do this. They tend to turn erratically, bend down at the waist and leave it facing the canvas in a somewhat passive manner without really trying to score points. Just simply trying to get by.

                All of these actions expose the boxer to injury. The big difference is why is the boxer doing it and what is he doing exactly. Is it desperation or a true boxing tactic done as an attempt to score points? Who's to decide? The referee.

                So what is the proper referee action if the boxer gets struck in the back of the head or spine and becomes injured after you've allowed him to do whatever he wants in the ring? Accidental foul? Intentional foul? Self-injury? TKO? Nothing? Basically, you are in a world of trouble.

                These and other practices are detrimental to boxing and or the safety of a boxer and are not clear in many rulebooks. This causes some referees to admonish or prevent boxers from doing them, while others choose to ignore them and hope for the best.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Beercules View Post
                  I don't know man, I don't have any issues with you but you're sounding kind of salty that Rigo quit.

                  He couldn't stand the heat and got right out of the kitchen. He did cook up some lame hand excuse though.

                  And bending below the waist is illegal, period. Rigo was bending really low too.

                  Im not going to watch Salido Loka, football is on my dude.
                  I'm not salty he quit. I'm not really invested in Rigondeaux. You're right, he couldn't stand the heat*. Just getting a bit sick and tired of people saying how dirty Rigondeaux fought when in it fact was the complete opposite. Lots of slurpers around here that need to get put in their place.

                  Reiterating my initial post, Rigondeax was at several disadvantages which in my educated opinion --- lead to him quitting. I think the evidence is beyond adaquate. I've even provided clear cut video evidence as proof.

                  Yet the machines still look at Lomachenko bashing the back of Rigondeax's brain...

                  FOUL #5: Back of Head #4 (3x)



                  FOUL #11: Back of Head #9



                  Back of Head #14 (4x)



                  ...and say Rigondeaux deserves the rules to be broken against him, risking his life and well-being in the process, because he bent over low? If that is even a practiced rule (which it's not), why didn't the ref warn him for it even once? Not a single warning --- now ain't that something?

                  Some of you want to keep your head in the sand about how Top Rank really operates, but people in the know --- know they fix fights. Casuals might not see it or even know what to look for outside of their fishbowl, doesn't mean it's not happening.

                  Originally posted by DoktorSleepless View Post
                  All of those are happening because of Rigo is bending below the waist and dangerously exposing the back of his head. It's really no different from turning you back to the opponent. It's a cowardly way out.
                  No it's not. Lomachenko hit him behind the head 20 times. Just because it's exposed doesn't mean you can hit it you fùcking dummy. If you turn your back on an opponent you can't get punched in the back of the head or spine. You can't do that, it's illegal to hit someone behind the head for any reason.

                  "So what is the proper referee action if the boxer gets struck in the back of the head or spine and becomes injured after you've allowed him to do whatever he wants in the ring? Accidental foul? Intentional foul? Self-injury? TKO? Nothing? Basically, you are in a world of trouble."

                  You're misinterpreting this.
                  Last edited by McNulty; 12-17-2017, 07:46 PM.

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                    #39
                    if u do a very slow motion compilation video, it will work better.
                    after that we could all laugh together for you trying so hard to make a excuse why Rigo quit.

                    was it the hand?, like he said o back of the head punches? Come on dude. let it go.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by xhiddenx87 View Post
                      was it the hand?, like he said o back of the head punches? Come on dude. let it go.
                      I think the hand thing was Rigondeaux trying to save face. He quit because he was frustrated from being fouled as well as having a ref not doing his job. You would be to. Once the point was gone and got hit after the bell with no warning from the ref --- he knew he had no chance.

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