Originally posted by travestyny
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So Manny checks the wrong check box on a pre-fight form and the NSAC uses it against him even though Manny never used the substance in the fight and went and fought without it. Still, NSAC requested an investigation.
Floyd did not notify the NSAC even though the pre-fight form clearly brings up that the NSAC wants to know about serious medical conditions, IVs, explanation on how Floyd took his vitamins (by way of an IV).
Yet the Nevada hometown Floyd did nothing wrong says the Nevada SAC? That is a change in stance! Oh yes, the NSAC blamed USADA instead!

Again, the TUEC is an independent group of 3 doctors who didn't have Mayweather's name on the application. Feel free to continue speculating about what they did. Unless you are on the TUE committee, I'm sure you have no idea what you are talking about. Again. Mayweather's name was not revealed to the TUEC as per the rules.
Like I said, Floyd has a close relationship with USADA and Floyd's side pays off USADA. Per the rules stated by the head of WADA TUE Committee, USADA must be TOTALLY independent and called it "murky", "red flag".
When a TUE application is filled out by Floyd, who does the form go to? USADA!!!!
Even then, how many RETRO TUEs for an IV would they be expecting during that time period? 1 So that means that they would know who they are giving a pass too.
USADA establishes their own TUEC. USADA members can discuss with the TUEC. So for YOU to say that its not possible is so wrong on your part but you are just DEFLECTING!!!
I even told you what the head of the WADA TUE Committee said about USADA/Floyd .... "Murky, REd Flag, ...."
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Here is the TUE Form with Floyd's name but still, for Floyd, its only a phone call away!!!
"The****utic Use Exemption (TUE) Application"
Last Name: Mayweather
First Name: Floyd
Sport/Discipline: BOXING
Daytime Phone: ___________
Email: ________________
Please submit your application to the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency: By E-mail: [email protected]
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1) So USADA should be totally independent BUT clearly is not in the FLoyd case!!!
2)
a) TUEC: WADA states that "a majority" should have no conflict of interest. So that means that there can be at least 1 member in that group that can be!!! That is all it takes sometimes to spoil the party by influencing the others ....
"In order to ensure a level of independence of decisions, the majority of the members of any TUEC should be free of conflicts of interest or political responsibility in the Anti-Doping Organization"
b) Now even with the TUEC, WADA realizes that there is a possibility that there can be a conflict but Travestyny thinks that is not possible:
"Ideally, in order to avoid possible conflicts of interest, all members of TUECs should be independent of the ADO."
So the key word is "Ideally"
c) Not all TUEC members need to be an expert. Only 1 member needs to.
"In practice, at least one expert should have in-depth knowledge of the specific medical sector pertaining to the application."
d) Since only 1 TUEC member needs to be an expert and at least one member can have a conflict of interest, then this 1 member can easily influence the decision .... BOOM!
Now add the point that USADA is CLEARLY not totally independent ............ BOOOOOM!
So I see lots of loopholes/issues that can happen but Travestyny cannot see the possibility
and there is more ....
Yea. USADA is heavy hitters in boxing right now. Great job, Floyd. (that's sarcasm, in case you didn't know). Way to keep speculating....based on being a butthurt fan of the loser.
May I remind you that WADA had the right to review and reverse the decision. WADA did not.
Let me remind you that you never complained when Bob Arum was paying for VADA testing. Did you?
Let me remind you that you never complained when Bob Arum was paying for VADA testing. Did you?
Plus Floyd was allowed to use a banned method while Manny was not allowed to even have his own vitamins in his locker room.
lol
The rest is all DEFLECTIONS from you because you have nothing. Well, how can you go against the "head of WADA TUE Committee"

Was the DCO present during these other athletes use of an IV? When are you going to acknowledge that these situations are not the same. AGAIN, THE DCO WAS PRESENT WHEN MAYWEATHER HAD THE IV. THE DCO ALSO TOOK A PARTIAL SAMPLE FROM BEFORE THE IV. THIS DID NOT HAPPEN IN THE OTHER CASES.
Like I keep telling you, it does NOT matter if the DCO was there. If those athletes had a good enough explanation, they may have been granted the RETRO TUE as well!
Here is their twisted look at RETRO TUEs and this was in respect to one of those athletes .... just unbelievable! The head of WADA TUE Committee would be flipping at the below statements.
“There is a process called a retroactive TUE, which would allow an athlete to go back and say, ‘Hey, I made a mistake by not submitting my TUE (ahead of time), but here’s my records showing I really did need this medically,” Novitzky

Novitzky said any such request would have been thoroughly vetted. Again, he stressed his comments were about the process in general and was not referring specifically to Penn’s case.
“Once that’s submitted, it goes to a TUE committee that USADA has, a group of experts and medical doctors that look at the application to determine whether or not there was a medical need,” he said. “So both of those things, putting together the request and then the committee reviewing it, can be a matter of weeks or, in extreme cases, months.”
It was nearly two months from the time Penn admitted he had used an IV until a notice of a potential violation of the anti-doping policy was announced.
“I voluntarily disclosed to USADA that during a nonfight period that I had an IV administered under the care of a doctor,” wrote Penn,
Like I said, for Floyd it was not weeks. The day after the request was made, it was rubber stamped and a RETRO TUE BS was given to Floyd.
For one, it's not clear if they checked or not since they are not given the athletes names. Second, if USADA followed the rules, and WADA dropped the ball.......then WADA dropped the ball. STFU and go complain to WADA that they should comb through their database for cases involving IV's around May 2015.
Man, you are still blaming WADA who states does not have the resources to check all its cases versus USADA that we both know had a direct impact on Floyd getting a RETRO TUE.
Amazing!!! Come on you can do it. Its time that you blame USADA for rubber stamping this for Floyd compared to others who had to go thru weeks/months of investigations and so on and then get suspended in the process!!!! See above for an example!
Yes. NSAC also confirmed that Mayweather did nothing wrong. How about you go back, read that statement, and stfu. Stop your crying.
Are you serious? That is one of the many problems about this that I point out. Floyd did something wrong by not notifying the NSAC. In the same fight, the NSAC had requested Manny to be investigated over a check box!
What you mean to say is that Manny tried to cheat and got caught, and had no choice but to not cheat. On the other hand, Mayweather followed the rules that were in place at that time for USADA and NSAC. So again....you have nothing. Shut the **** up already.
The NSAC is stating that there is 1 rule for Floyd and one for everyone else!!! You are DEFLECTING AGAIN!!!

DCO was present and witnessed the need for an IV according to the statement released to the public. Maybe he checked the bowl for diarrhea. Why don't you go get the medical records and report back to us.
DCO is NOT a doctor. He witnessed Floyd just like you and me did. What did you see? I saw Floyd drinking away with NO PROBLEM!!! Now go check what the head of the WADA TUE Committee has to say when that is the case ..............
KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!
Wrong. NSAC didn't stop him from using Toradol throughout his training camp, did they? Or are you trying to argue that Mayweather was taking an IV an hour before the fight? Hmmm.
Give up, clown.
Give up, clown.
NSAC was complaining that Diaz didn't tell them about his marijuana use some 7 + days before the fight and used that against him when it came time to assess Diaz's punishment ....... BOOOM.
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