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    #11
    I like Arum but he knows what he said isn't true. Tommy Morrison beat Foreman but every white person got a Foreman grill

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      #12
      It's cos no slickness required in ufc

      How many times you see a ufc fighter dance around the outside before backing into a corner with his chin behind his shoulder, beckoning the opponent in, slipping shots before countering with a stiff jab and dancing away until the Bell rings

      That's real fighting

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        #13
        Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
        That is not the reason. The reason is that boxing has become a PPV sport. Even HBO/Showtime regular fights are ppv because you have to pay a premium subscription to watch it. They've made boxing inaccessible to the casual fan. Bob is part of the problem. The UFC is easily accessible with reality TV shows, their Fox and FS1 cards. Then they have fightpass which is geared towards their younger tech savvy demographic. Ask 100 white people who their favorite boxer is and 99 will say Ali and 1 will say Marciano. If Arum doesn't recognize this is the problem then he's out of touch and isn't willing to change it so he's useless for the growth of the sport. And boxing will always be the best combat sport and the most popular combat sport. The UFC version of MMA is just poorly skilled boxing. UFC fans don't want to see the ground game. They want to see two poorly skilled boxers throw wide hooks with their chins exposed.
        NOPE.its not that complicated ufc is popular because in their sport the best fight the best.unlike boxing where fans have to deal bull**** like a side/b side and promoters who don't work together.al gaymon is also part of the problem even more than arum.he overpaid his fighters so much to the point where they wont fight another decent fighter unless they get a crazy high pay day all because gaymon paid them ridiculous purses to fight bums.

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          #14
          Originally posted by OctoberRed View Post
          HA! Arum is on fire today.

          He should be like ***** and build a wall around boxing to keep whites from crossing to the UFC!

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            #15
            Arum is an absolute fool as always. Literally the opposite of what he said is true. Here are the facts.

            "Whites" are abandoning boxing for UFC because "whites" just want to see the best fight the best, irrespective of race, and that doesn't happen anymore in boxing.

            But then why are more "whites" abandoning boxing for UFC than blacks, if not because of the lack of white American boxers? For the exact opposite reason as Arum said. There are so many good black American boxers, and many black Americans live in a much more race-obsessed culture (see ***), that many black Americans can overlook the lack of best-vs-best fights in boxing and entertaining matches because at least black boxers are winning, and that alone is enough to create a rooting interest for many black American boxing fans who see things in a very race-focused, "black pride/tribe pride" way.

            Most white Americans aren't taught to have "white pride," so even when white fighters like a Klitschko or Tyson Fury are ruling the highest division in boxing, it's still not enough to hold their interest because they don't care about what race the boxer is, they just care if the fights are entertaining, and many of Klitschko's fights weren't.

            But, with many black American boxing fans, they are taught to have "black pride," so they do have a big rooting interest in the race of the fighters that carries their interest even when the fights themselves are boring stylistically. This explains why Andre Ward and Floyd Mayweather were able to have a lot of support among black boxing fans even though their fights were boring, but fighters like the Klitschkos were not able to have a lot of support among white boxing fans despite their styles.

            The "black pride" belief of many black boxing fans allows them to have a rooting interest, and thus be entertained, with any successful black boxer, no matter how boring or how subpar the level of competition he faces, or the top opponents he avoids. Most white boxing fans do not have a corresponding "white pride" belief, so they do not have a rooting interest in successful white fighters who are boring, or successful black fighters who are boring. This is why they only root for entertaining fighters and don't care what race they are. They rooted for Mike Tyson, Manny Pacquiao, GGG, Sergey Kovalev. I'm sure they will embrace Chocolatito and Naoya Inoue. There is zero pattern in the race of the fighters white boxing fans support because they absolutely do not care about that. The only pattern you will find is that they support see the best, most entertaining fighters fight the best competition in entertaining fights.

            That happens way more in UFC now, so they pay more attention to UFC than they used it. It's very simple to understand. Unfortunately, competitive top-level fights rarely happen in boxing anymore.

            Whites" gravitating towards UFC has nothing to do with race. It's actually the few big fan bases boxing can still lay claim to despite a subpar product most of the time, such as Hispanics and Blacks, that have a lot to do with race or "tribe pride." Race or "tribe pride" is the reason many members of these groups stay boxing fans despite a subpar product. But white fans paying more attention to UFC? That has to do with a more competitive product, not race.
            Last edited by Boxing Logic; 09-01-2016, 12:12 AM.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View Post
              Arum's business model has always been built towards Mexicans anyway. And how can he say that when one of his most beloved fighters is filipino? White people loved Pac.
              they only love the pacman when it fits their agenda. their the first to throw pac out once they feel he's nothing special to them anymore. this is actually proven facts.

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                #17
                You are a fan girl of a criminal like rob arum? Damn daddy issues much?

                Originally posted by GMAN SUPREME View Post
                the ratings have been bad for pbc for the most part and al gaymon has been bleeding money.so calm down fangirl.
                YOU ARE A FAN GIRL OF A FIGHT FIXING CRIMINAL LIKE ARUM??? DAMN MUST HAVE ISSUES





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                  #18
                  Will Bob be banned from boxingscene for race baiting? I guess not,alrighty then.

                  This pos needs to go die in a corner quietly the money grabbing ****end

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                    #19
                    Arum is a racist dog and always will be

                    Originally posted by my low place View Post
                    arum like 200 years old..he cool with 2nd place now..he cool with any place i bet...
                    arum is a racist dog and that will never change! He cant stand a black harvard business school graduate kicking his ass in the boxing business!

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                      #20
                      White americans are just more educated to understand what kind of fraud you , bob arum and other promotores have turned boxing into .

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