I like Arum but he knows what he said isn't true. Tommy Morrison beat Foreman but every white person got a Foreman grill
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It's cos no slickness required in ufc
How many times you see a ufc fighter dance around the outside before backing into a corner with his chin behind his shoulder, beckoning the opponent in, slipping shots before countering with a stiff jab and dancing away until the Bell rings
That's real fighting
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Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View PostThat is not the reason. The reason is that boxing has become a PPV sport. Even HBO/Showtime regular fights are ppv because you have to pay a premium subscription to watch it. They've made boxing inaccessible to the casual fan. Bob is part of the problem. The UFC is easily accessible with reality TV shows, their Fox and FS1 cards. Then they have fightpass which is geared towards their younger tech savvy demographic. Ask 100 white people who their favorite boxer is and 99 will say Ali and 1 will say Marciano. If Arum doesn't recognize this is the problem then he's out of touch and isn't willing to change it so he's useless for the growth of the sport. And boxing will always be the best combat sport and the most popular combat sport. The UFC version of MMA is just poorly skilled boxing. UFC fans don't want to see the ground game. They want to see two poorly skilled boxers throw wide hooks with their chins exposed.
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Arum is an absolute fool as always. Literally the opposite of what he said is true. Here are the facts.
"Whites" are abandoning boxing for UFC because "whites" just want to see the best fight the best, irrespective of race, and that doesn't happen anymore in boxing.
But then why are more "whites" abandoning boxing for UFC than blacks, if not because of the lack of white American boxers? For the exact opposite reason as Arum said. There are so many good black American boxers, and many black Americans live in a much more race-obsessed culture (see ***), that many black Americans can overlook the lack of best-vs-best fights in boxing and entertaining matches because at least black boxers are winning, and that alone is enough to create a rooting interest for many black American boxing fans who see things in a very race-focused, "black pride/tribe pride" way.
Most white Americans aren't taught to have "white pride," so even when white fighters like a Klitschko or Tyson Fury are ruling the highest division in boxing, it's still not enough to hold their interest because they don't care about what race the boxer is, they just care if the fights are entertaining, and many of Klitschko's fights weren't.
But, with many black American boxing fans, they are taught to have "black pride," so they do have a big rooting interest in the race of the fighters that carries their interest even when the fights themselves are boring stylistically. This explains why Andre Ward and Floyd Mayweather were able to have a lot of support among black boxing fans even though their fights were boring, but fighters like the Klitschkos were not able to have a lot of support among white boxing fans despite their styles.
The "black pride" belief of many black boxing fans allows them to have a rooting interest, and thus be entertained, with any successful black boxer, no matter how boring or how subpar the level of competition he faces, or the top opponents he avoids. Most white boxing fans do not have a corresponding "white pride" belief, so they do not have a rooting interest in successful white fighters who are boring, or successful black fighters who are boring. This is why they only root for entertaining fighters and don't care what race they are. They rooted for Mike Tyson, Manny Pacquiao, GGG, Sergey Kovalev. I'm sure they will embrace Chocolatito and Naoya Inoue. There is zero pattern in the race of the fighters white boxing fans support because they absolutely do not care about that. The only pattern you will find is that they support see the best, most entertaining fighters fight the best competition in entertaining fights.
That happens way more in UFC now, so they pay more attention to UFC than they used it. It's very simple to understand. Unfortunately, competitive top-level fights rarely happen in boxing anymore.
Whites" gravitating towards UFC has nothing to do with race. It's actually the few big fan bases boxing can still lay claim to despite a subpar product most of the time, such as Hispanics and Blacks, that have a lot to do with race or "tribe pride." Race or "tribe pride" is the reason many members of these groups stay boxing fans despite a subpar product. But white fans paying more attention to UFC? That has to do with a more competitive product, not race.Last edited by Boxing Logic; 09-01-2016, 12:12 AM.
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Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View PostArum's business model has always been built towards Mexicans anyway. And how can he say that when one of his most beloved fighters is filipino? White people loved Pac.
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You are a fan girl of a criminal like rob arum? Damn daddy issues much?
Originally posted by GMAN SUPREME View Postthe ratings have been bad for pbc for the most part and al gaymon has been bleeding money.so calm down fangirl.
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Arum is a racist dog and always will be
Originally posted by my low place View Postarum like 200 years old..he cool with 2nd place now..he cool with any place i bet...
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