Every other sport great defense is fine but in boxing it's a bad thing.

[Adonis Creed]

In basketball or football all you hear is defense wins championships but in boxing you have fighters like Rigo or Floyd and they get **** on by boxing fans.

Rigo can beat a top p4p guy and get hate from his own promoter. Floyd beats champ after champ, has high ppv sells time after time and gets called boring while the Broncos offense sucks all year no one says they're boring they just say that's football it happens.A football team could win a game 10-7 or 13-3 and people wouldn't say the game was boring, they would talk about how great the defense is.

Even a team like the Spurs who some people call boring get respect league wide and from the fans and get called a model franchise by everyone.

Do other sports fans just accept the way they're sport is and boxing fans can't? Is it because it's easier to criticize a individual than a whole team? It could be but even mma fans don't really call guys boring if they're great at bjj or wrestling.


Why is that?


Real question this isn't to start a race debate.

[NEETzsche]

defensive football (soccer) teams are usually unpopular, like mourinho at his worst, tony pulis, sam allardyce, etc. a lot of people even criticise pep guardiola's possession football

casual fans just like to see points being scored

[Robbie Barrett]

defensive football (soccer) teams are usually unpopular, like mourinho at his worst, tony pulis, sam allardyce, etc. a lot of people even criticise pep guardiola's possession football

casual fans just like to see points being scored

That's what it comes down to casuals that want to see brawling that don't/can't appreciate the skill and ability of fighters like Mayweather/Rigondeaux/Ward.

[Adonis Creed]

defensive football (soccer) teams are usually unpopular, like mourinho at his worst, tony pulis, sam allardyce, etc. a lot of people even criticise pep guardiola's possession football

casual fans just like to see points being scored

That's what it comes down to casuals that want to see brawling that don't/can't appreciate the skill and ability of fighters like Mayweather/Rigondeaux/Ward.

Even people who call themselves hardcore fans don't appreciate the skill level of the best fighters in the world.

[leathernvouges]

Most ppl don't understand what they're really watching they like watching fights instead of boxing matches that's why mma grew so fast because that's skill too but it's much more of an actual fight

[Combat Talk Radio]

In basketball or football all you hear is defense wins championships but in boxing you have fighters like Rigo or Floyd and they get **** on by boxing fans.

Rigo can beat a top p4p guy and get hate from his own promoter. Floyd beats champ after champ, has high ppv sells time after time and gets called boring while the Broncos offense sucks all year no one says they're boring they just say that's football it happens.A football team could win a game 10-7 or 13-3 and people wouldn't say the game was boring, they would talk about how great the defense is.

Even a team like the Spurs who some people call boring get respect league wide and from the fans and get called a model franchise by everyone.

Do other sports fans just accept the way they're sport is and boxing fans can't? Is it because it's easier to criticize a individual than a whole team? It could be but even mma fans don't really call guys boring if they're great at bjj or wrestling.


Why is that?


Real question this isn't to start a race debate.

Flip the script.

When Vince McMahon started XFL, it was originally the MMA of football. The rules were light as hell, you had backstage promos and all sorts of nonsense going on. Problem is, XFL couldn't hunt the good players. No good players, no good league.




But if you compare what XFL did to what NFL will allow, it isn't even close. XFL was pushing boundaries of acceptability. All NFL is, is a game. And that's fine, for those who just want a game.


With boxing, you have people who consider boxing a fight (which it is), and others who consider boxing an art form (which it should be). You will never get the fight crowd on board. Ever. And nor should you try.

The real thing hurting boxing is the loss of REAL drama, characters, seedy promoters, mafia influence and the East Coast. Now, everything is buddy-buddy with people, false and manufactured feuds, smiling and handshakes between guys who should literally hate each other, etc.

The thrill is gone. That's the problem.

[hectari]

In Football Defense make contact and wreck dudes, Defense in Football is much different than in boxing man.

Dont worry they are trying to change the rules in boxing to make sure if a person runs they must also throw hard punches, they want to remove air jabs and penalizing clinching, to show real skill. It helps the sport as well if they start enforcing the rules, I remember one fight two boxers didnt want to box and the ref threatened to take a percentage of their purse away and they started throwing punches lol

[boliodogs]

Defense is it's own reward. A boxer with a great defense doesn't get hit much. This helps him land more punches than his opponent and win fights. That has nothing to do with his popularity. Boxing fans like who they like and dislike who they dislike. You can't make them like certain boxers just because you like them. I like Rigo but many fans don't like him much because his fights can be dull and lack action. As a rule action fighters who take risks and go for the knock out and get hit some doing it are more popular than safety first boxing masters. It's been that way forever and will continue to be that way. A Jack Dempsey will almost always be more popular than a Gene Tunney.

[hectari]

Flip the script.

When Vince McMahon started XFL, it was originally the MMA of football. The rules were light as hell, you had backstage promos and all sorts of nonsense going on. Problem is, XFL couldn't hunt the good players. No good players, no good league.




But if you compare what XFL did to what NFL will allow, it isn't even close. XFL was pushing boundaries of acceptability. All NFL is, is a game. And that's fine, for those who just want a game.


With boxing, you have people who consider boxing a fight (which it is), and others who consider boxing an art form (which it should be). You will never get the fight crowd on board. Ever. And nor should you try.

The real thing hurting boxing is the loss of REAL drama, characters, seedy promoters, mafia influence and the East Coast. Now, everything is buddy-buddy with people, false and manufactured feuds, smiling and handshakes between guys who should literally hate each other, etc.

The thrill is gone. That's the problem.

Thats why UFC is so popular, Boxing needs a hype man marketer like Dana White, ages ago Tex Rickard was Boxings greatest hype man, he made boxing so famous back in the early 1900s Boxing was the biggest sport in USA, Tex Rickard cannot be matched by any promoter today in Boxing, we need another guy like that to put Boxing back on the map.

[soul_survivor]

Who says great defence is bad? I've never heard a genuine fan or renowned boxing analyst sya such thing. What's bad is if that defence is not backed up by appropriate attack.

I dunno about nfl or near but in almost every major international sport, simply defending is as bad as simply attacking. The best teams and the ones who provide the most entertainment have a balance of the two. The same is said of boxing.