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    #131
    IMO, give me toney over hopkins.

    i've never been wowed by a hopkins fight, the boring bastard.

    have you people ever seen toney / mccallum or toney / jirov? just those 2 fights alone out do bernards whole career.

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      #132
      Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View Post
      How do you justify this statement? It can be argued that Toney has the better wins...
      You justify the statment by knowing than Hopkins has an extremely high ring IQ whilst James Toney's ring IQ is boarderline non existent.

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        #133
        Originally posted by baya View Post
        IMO, give me toney over hopkins.

        i've never been wowed by a hopkins fight, the boring bastard.

        have you people ever seen toney / mccallum or toney / jirov? just those 2 fights alone out do bernards whole career.
        Dominating and stopping Tito Trinidad didn't wow you but getting a draw with McCallum and edging a decision in a war against Jirov does wow you?

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          #134
          Originally posted by Mr.DagoWop View Post
          Hopkins never juiced to get to where he got.
          Lmao that's why he didn't want to do advanced testing against Pascal, and he shoved him during the presser, because his emotions got triggered.

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            #135
            Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
            Dominating and stopping Tito Trinidad didn't wow you but getting a draw with McCallum and edging a decision in a war against Jirov does wow you?
            definitely not, stopping a welterweight in a middleweight bout isn't some sort of out of this world type event.

            hopkins has never been engaged in an enthralling fight, at least not any that i can remember.

            i mean even toney's fight with holyfield .. i've always enjoyed james toney's fight style.

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              #136
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
              Over Evander Holyfield's corpse, yes.
              Still doesn't detract from the fact that James went from 160 to HW and got the KO over an ATG there...

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                #137
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                You justify the statment by knowing than Hopkins has an extremely high ring IQ whilst James Toney's ring IQ is boarderline non existent.
                Lol.

                Sounds to me like YDKSAB...

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                  #138
                  Originally posted by baya View Post
                  hopkins has never been engaged in an enthralling fight, at least not any that i can remember.
                  Check out the Echols rematch. Damn good fight, IMO...

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                    #139
                    Originally posted by Nay_Sayer View Post
                    Check out the Echols rematch. Damn good fight, IMO...
                    that one slipped my mind, that was a good scrap.

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                      #140
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
                      He said he's more talented not that he's better.

                      And that statment is debatable.
                      LOL what difference does it make? And better at what? The man said it himself.
                      Roy Jones was asked who was the best guy he fought in his prime and he immediately said James Toney. You can also find that video on youtube.

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