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    #21
    Maybe at the very bottom of the top ten If I'm trying to get him in and If no other fighter impresses me greatly?

    He fought a guy who was 1-2 in his last three fights and the guy he beat had a record of 23-21-1 that's just really not good enough we can complain about other fighters like Wilder, GGG and so on but those guys haven't fought quite as weak opposition as Crawford has.

    If I take it off on skill just alone to rate my P4P list I'd definitely have him up there in the top 10 in a good position because I do rate him highly.

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      #22
      Originally posted by bluebeam View Post
      Not top 5 yet, but he is top 10.

      1 vacant
      2 kovalev
      3 gonzalez
      4 ward
      5 golovkin
      6 canelo
      7 pacquiao
      8 bradley
      9 crawford
      10 Uchiyama
      11 rigo
      12 garcia
      13 Lomachenko
      14 degale
      15 Estrada
      1st place is taken they don't leave these places vacant so in otherwords your number 1 is Kovalev, just say it and don't beat about the bush just because Floyd retired.

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        #23
        He's not in my top 5 but I'm a fan. I need to wait until he fights someone with pulse.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Fangedgrowl View Post
          Big no. He hasn't beaten a guy his own size except Dierry Jean.

          He beat the cuban who was a blown up featherweight and one other guy who was marginal. Let him beat Postol, Broner, and /or Provodnikov. Actually i would like to see him fight Peterson too. He is not top 10 p4p yet but in top 15 maybe. This calling out Pacquaio is rdiculous.
          Agree 100%. Beating up on smaller guys doesn't make you top 10 P4P.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Jc8804 View Post
            How highly do you think of TC ? Will he one day become the p4p king?
            I think he is the best fighter in the world, right now. He has a lot to prove to be recognized as such, but I think the kid beats anyone from 135-147.

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              #26
              In terms of perceived talent, I'd place him in my top 5. I would not put him in a real top 5 P4P list until he gets some more meaningful wins though.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Zangief. View Post
                1st place is taken they don't leave these places vacant so in otherwords your number 1 is Kovalev, just say it and don't beat about the bush just because Floyd retired.

                I left it vacant because nobody is worthy of outright being called the best fighter in the world at this moment.

                Ward vs Kovalev winner is my p4p number 1.

                Gonzalez beats Estrada again he could be.

                Golovkin destroys canelo he could be

                Canelo beats golovkin he could be.

                Whichever happens first

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                  #28
                  I have him number 3 right now

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Fangedgrowl View Post
                    Maybe he needs to earn that fight. His best win was Gamboa who is a featherweight . He beat glorified sparring partner Dierry Jena and Ricky Burns . Give me a break. Dude can fight Postol, provodnikov and Broner as well as Peterson to prove he could be on Pac, Floyd etc level. He reminds me of a small Holyfield , he is there to get hit that is for sure. He is a good combo puncher with some saize and power, but like everyone else said Bluebeam, he has fought guys smaller than him. He is probably a welterweight who is squeezing down to jr welter. Right now it isn't really hurting him because he has fought small guys and weaker comp. Lets see him in with a couple of top guys at 140 first.

                    What did algeiri do to earn a pacquiao fight? Win a debatable decision against ruslan?

                    What did rios do to earn a pacquiao fight? Lose to alvarado?

                    So save that earn a shot bs.

                    Crawford vs pacquiao is a better and bigger fight than crawford vs postol.

                    that's a fact

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by bluebeam View Post
                      What did algeiri do to earn a pacquiao fight? Win a debatable decision against ruslan?

                      What did rios do to earn a pacquiao fight? Lose to alvarado?

                      So save that earn a shot bs.

                      Crawford vs pacquiao is a better and bigger fight than crawford vs postol.

                      that's a fact
                      While I agree with your point, your reasoning is flawed, IMO. Pac had just suffered a brutal KO and many wondered if his career was over. You can't look at it with 20/20 hindsight and pretend it wasn't a legit matchup at the time.
                      The Algeri fight was less compelling but, at the time, Chris had a mystique around him and Pac still had a lot of questions surrounding him. It wasn't horribly underserved.

                      But, I wholeheartedly agree that Pac/Crawford is a fantastic fight though and Crawford has done enough to earn it. I even think Crawford takes it, though I'd be rooting for Manny. I want Crawford and Postol to marinate as it both these guys are huge talents and should be built up before they meet.

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