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Keith Thurman on fighting Porter: He is bullying 140 llbers at 147 my hool will land

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    #21
    Also OP I think you underrate Porter, he's got very good athleticism and good skill. When he uses his jab it's very crisp and sharp, he doubles up on it and causes the opponent fits. He's got very fast hands (when he's not throwing wide) and feet, the problem is his ring IQ lets him down sometimes, like Bradley, he gets carried away.



    Watch the first few rounds of that for example, he's easily outboxing Diaz who's a decent fighter himself, then he loses discipline, abandons a gameplan that was working very well and gives Diaz a way back into the fight.

    Porter has got quicker hands and feet than Thurman, but Thurman throws sharper, more accurate punches. Imo Porter should try off trying to box Thurman, if it doesn't work, go to plan B and try get inside, outwork him etc.

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      #22
      Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
      I think Porter beats him. Showtime is too physical, too busy and too tough although I feel that Thurman is the superior boxer. Having said that, Thurman is not gritty enough to beat Porter.
      Thurman will turn this into a boring holding and running contest just like he did with....

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        #23
        Originally posted by therealpugilist View Post
        you don't have to be gritty when you're not getting hit clean.

        Showtime is strong but he is also predictable. I never understood why fighters bounce on their toes while standing in one spot...very bad habit...once youre feet leave the ground, you are more vulnerable to get caught off balance...Brook and others took advantage of this flaw and so will Thurman


        Porter is strong but he isn't what I'd call a puncher. He grinds you down. Guerrero has better technique, a better jab and longer reach than Porter which is why he got some good work done working Thurman to the ropes and inside

        Porter doesn't throw short enough punches and doesn't have a good enough jab to land enough to make it a punch up


        If Thurman chooses to box, he clearly beats Porter....If he makes it a fight it will be closer but his athleticism, countepunching and bodypunching will keep Porter at bay long enough for him to eke out a tough decision
        You have to be gritty to beat Porter because he comes at you all night and just keeps throwing. Very basic but effective at times and if Thurman keeps getting caught, he'll keep losing points. It's as simple as that.

        Like I said before the Brook fight, Porter is so basic, he'll get beat by any half decent, physically strong boxer, Brook was that guy. Thurman is a half decent boxer but is he physically strong enough? Or even mentally strong enough? From what I've seen, he doesn't like getting pushed back and since he has stepped up in competition, his power has been absent.

        Porter has this, bank on it.

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          #24
          Originally posted by torosboxing75 View Post
          Thurman will turn this into a boring holding and running contest just like he did with....
          Lol he could do that, issue is, unlike that other guy, Porter is young and fresh and prime.

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            #25
            Cant wait thurman getting destroyed. Dude is a nobody without his power he would have lost against every name he faced, guerrero chaves collazo, so that tells you his skills aint enough to win him fights its his power that bails him out, Porter gonna be in his chest and fuck his world UP! I honestly see a one sided beat down very similar way porter beat paulie down.

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              #26
              Sometimes....

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                #27
                Originally posted by Dean_Razorback View Post
                didn't thurman come down from 154 to 147?? he is doing the same, lots of this guys are doing the same


                Yep.......

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Dean_Razorback View Post
                  didn't thurman come down from 154 to 147?? he is doing the same, lots of this guys are doing the same
                  Thurman has always been a 147lb fighter. He was a welterweight in the amateurs. Has no problem making 147.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by soul_survivor View Post
                    You have to be gritty to beat Porter because he comes at you all night and just keeps throwing. Very basic but effective at times and if Thurman keeps getting caught, he'll keep losing points. It's as simple as that.

                    Like I said before the Brook fight, Porter is so basic, he'll get beat by any half decent, physically strong boxer, Brook was that guy. Thurman is a half decent boxer but is he physically strong enough? Or even mentally strong enough? From what I've seen, he doesn't like getting pushed back and since he has stepped up in competition, his power has been absent.

                    Porter has this, bank on it.
                    Porter losses. Too basic and easy to hit....Thurman has had some gut checks and past those tests.

                    Porter just doesn't present enough problems to pull out a win.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by John Locke View Post
                      Also OP I think you underrate Porter, he's got very good athleticism and good skill. When he uses his jab it's very crisp and sharp, he doubles up on it and causes the opponent fits. He's got very fast hands (when he's not throwing wide) and feet, the problem is his ring IQ lets him down sometimes, like Bradley, he gets carried away.



                      Watch the first few rounds of that for example, he's easily outboxing Diaz who's a decent fighter himself, then he loses discipline, abandons a gameplan that was working very well and gives Diaz a way back into the fight.

                      Porter has got quicker hands and feet than Thurman, but Thurman throws sharper, more accurate punches. Imo Porter should try off trying to box Thurman, if it doesn't work, go to plan B and try get inside, outwork him etc.
                      He isn't outboxing any of the top ww because of his habit of getting carried away.

                      He is a good fighter, very basic, predictable. Thurman can improvise better with his punching and doesn't have to be set to throw like Porter. IF its not a jab then Porter has to be set to throw.


                      Diaz isn't a top welterweight and wasn't a top junior welterweight. Against Brook, Broner, and the better fighters he faced, Porter's jab was non-existent and wasn't a factor

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