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Was Fury vs Wladimir Close Enough To Deserve A Rematch?

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    #31
    The fight wasn't very close and it was crap to watch, but when there is an upset this big then a rematch is almost automatic. It wasn't like Wladimir took a frightful beating.

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      #32
      It might be hard to get people to watch that again.

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        #33
        I don;t particularly want to see that garbage again and have my doubts about Wlad actually doing something differently. However, even if fury won 9 rounds about 7 of them were won by an inch so it is not like Wlad has some Herculean task to win those rounds.

        The question to ask in a rematch is can the other guy win, based on how little Fury actually accomplished in his winning rounds then yea Wlad can win because he only has to do a tad better to win.

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          #34
          Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
          I don;t particularly want to see that garbage again and have my doubts about Wlad actually doing something differently. However, even if fury won 9 rounds about 7 of them were won by an inch so it is not like Wlad has some Herculean task to win those rounds.

          The question to ask in a rematch is can the other guy win, based on how little Fury actually accomplished in his winning rounds then yea Wlad can win because he only has to do a tad better to win.
          That's how I see it, with the addition of the fact that IF Wlad pushes fury a little more, Fury will push back. Before we know it, we may actually have an interesting fight on our hands.

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            #35
            Originally posted by FlatLine View Post
            The magnitude of the event may be enough to warrant a rematch I admit. Fury upset Wladimir and became the first person to defeat him for a decade. I'm interested in seeing the remach just to see if Wladimir can somehow adjust and come out victorious which would solidify him as an ATG for even the most staunch of doubters, I think.

            But lets remove the heavyweight titles, let's remove reputation of the pugilists.
            Let's just focus on the actual fight itself as a standard boxing match. Was the first fight close enough to deserve a rematch, assuming we just view it as a standard fight and take away all the glitz and glamour surrounding it?

            If it was just a normal fight with no belts on the line, would you think a rematch is completely justifiable or would seem totally unnecessary based on how the first fight played out?
            If it was as you explained it, then no, there'd be no need for a rematch. It wasn't a particularly close fight, and it was **** with both fighters looking awful. However, even though in rounds it wasn't that close, it also wasn't like Fury did much more to win those rounds so Wlad wouldn't need to do much more to win those rounds back himself. But if Wlad does more then I don't doubt Fury would be doing more himself too. It's hard to do more as the opponent when the other guy just paws at you with a weak jab then flails his arms wildly about in a desperate effort to wrap you up in a cocoon of clinching.

            But there is a lot more to it than just that so the rematch is certainly justified. I just really hope it's at least remotely watchable this time. But honestly, I also want Fury to win again because I think everyone (well, everyone that isn't one of the obsessive Wlad fans) is tired of how ****ing banal the heavyweight division has become with Wlad at the top. A decade of utter trash in terms of actual fighting to be frank. I can't think of any other champion that has had such a long run of genuinely cringeworthy fights at the pinnacle of the division. I just hope that Fury doesn't fall into a similar pattern of using nothing but clinches as his primary goal in a fight. In fact I don't even care anymore who is at the top as long as we are seeing some good, exciting fights that aren't dominated by clinch after clinch after clinch after clinch after clinch...on and on forever. It's awful to watch.

            I do think however that even if Fury did, the refs in the US and UK would be more likely to actually penalise him because he's not fighting in Germany where the entire promotion was based on keeping him winning like it was with Wlad and he's not the only star on the rise with good backing so that should create more of a fair shake than we were seeing with Wlad's fights.

            I think I can speak for most people though when I just want to get this rematch the hell out of the way so we can get on with making some fights at the top of the division that won't be painful, unwatchable clinchfests.

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