Comments Thread For: Canelo's Coach: We Are Not Inventing a New Division!

[M Bison]

By the end of Canelo career how many catchweight fights will he have had lol.

[PeasantCrusha]

War Nelo?




AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Beercules]

but you did doe.

[hhs661]

Damn, the entire canelo team is something else. I knew there was a reason I didn't care for the outcome of the cotto-canelo fight. This diva and his girlfriends are here to use their name no matter what and I'm sure the sky is the limit in terms of their demands.

The next decade of their catlike ways will know no boundaries

[The plunger man]

The limitations of canelo are truly starting to appear...here you have a boxer who rehydrates to 175 pounds.who probably on fight night outweighed him by 12lb...who hit cotto clearly on the chin with full blown shots and never buckled him once...who cannot make light middleweight anymore....who is refusing to step into the ring and defend his belt against a fellow middlweight and is demanding that all fighters weigh no more than 155 and yet he is holding a 160 belt...any boxing guy that defends this kind of behaviour in terms of being a champion falls into 2 category's ....they either have no knowledge of boxing and what being a champion means at that weight or there just so ignorant and biased they can't see beyond there nose......canelo will get stripped and golovkin can be champion and defend that belt like a true middlweight .....let canelo do his thing and continue to dehydrate himself trying to avoid his obligations at middlweight .....canelo is looking pathetic with this 155 bull**** war golovkin

[Divine Hammer]

so pac has catchweights and cotto does and its cool. but canelo cant?

****** POS hypocrites, ****ing fa99ots you ****** ass biased fans are.

hahahaha give me a break!!! when did pacquiao ever challenge someone in his OWN DIVISION at a CATCHWEIGHT and while he was a champ in that division??? hahahahahaha get a clue. and manny didn't start asking for catchweights until his 10th weightclass (he turned pro at minimumweight!!!). whereas canelo is abusing catchweights in his 3rd weightclass!!!! again get a clue u punk.

[sterilizer]

Not just his rep, I'm afraid. He is single-handedly destroying the reputation of an entire boxing nation. The work of decades of real Mexican warriors is being completely undone by this kid (and ODLH).

That makes absolutely no sense at all. Whatever greats like JMM, Morales, Barrera, Chavez Jr., Salvador Sanchez, Ruben Olivares have done for boxing has absolutely nothing to do with Canelo. Nothing is being "undone" whatsoever. Their great careers and legacies will still be there, regardless of whatever the likes of Canelo or Chavez Jr. do to embarrass themselves, by their cowardly catch-weight tactics.

Fighters fight for themselves, not for their countries. This is not the world boxing championships or the Olympics. A lot of of Mexicans do disagree with these ridiculous and cowardly tactics by Canelo.

So in your viewpoint, Floyd Mayweather Jr. has destroyed the reputation of all Americans as boxers, for his long list of negative things he has done in his career, including catch-weights for titles and always dictating the terms of the fights for his benefit? Manny has disgraced his entire country for winning a bunch of titles using catch-weights as well and dictating the terms of his fights as well? And Cotto has embarrassed Puerto Rico too, for the same reasons?

No. They embarrass themselves as individuals, not an entire nation. All the mentioned guys may have earned the right to be called "divas", but please do not bring entire nations into the argument. Mexican boxers are not divas as a rule, only these two, Canelo and Chavez Jr., have disgraced themselves and everybody knows they are a product of targeted marketing because their sizes and looks are not those of an average Mexican boxer.

Did you even watch the fight previous to the Canelo one? A more typical Mexican warrior won vs. a Japanese warrior, purely by guts. In a brutal fight, unbeaten super featherweight Francisco “El Bandido” Vargas (23-0-1, 17 KOs) dethroned WBC champion Takashi Miura ...

But of course, that one hardly made the news. The Mexican guy won by PURE GUTS and I'm sure that he will not require a catch weight to defend his newly-acquired title against ANYONE.

Oh, why bother anyways. Yeah, everything great Mexican warriors did in their time, will be undone by these pathetic new media-driven divas. Maybe JMM with a broken nose, about to be KO'd and his corner about to throw in the towel, never knocked the hell out of Pacquiao, when he refused to back down an inch, or clinch or run. Or maybe he never recovered from three knock downs in the 1st round of their first fight ever, to come back and get a draw in a fight where many saw him as the winner. Or maybe JCC senior never defeated Roger Mayweather twice, never throwing a superman shot when he was being outsized, outreached, out-jabbed by the much taller guy. Or maybe the great Salvador Sanchez never KO'd Danny Lopez, Azumah Nelson and Wilfredo Gomez, just because the Cinammon kid turned out to be a coward vs. GGG. Whatever you and the other Mexican haters say.

[NachoMan]

That makes absolutely no sense at all. Whatever greats like JMM, Morales, Barrera, Chavez Jr., Salvador Sanchez, Ruben Olivares have done for boxing has absolutely nothing to do with Canelo. Nothing is being "undone" whatsoever. Their great careers and legacies will still be there, regardless of whatever the likes of Canelo or Chavez Jr. do to embarrass themselves, by their cowardly catch-weight tactics.

Fighters fight for themselves, not for their countries. This is not the world boxing championships or the Olympics. A lot of of Mexicans do disagree with these ridiculous and cowardly tactics by Canelo.

So in your viewpoint, Floyd Mayweather Jr. has destroyed the reputation of all Americans as boxers, for his long list of negative things he has done in his career, including catch-weights for titles and always dictating the terms of the fights for his benefit? Manny has disgraced his entire country for winning a bunch of titles using catch-weights as well and dictating the terms of his fights as well? And Cotto has embarrassed Puerto Rico too, for the same reasons?

No. They embarrass themselves as individuals, not an entire nation. All the mentioned guys may have earned the right to be called "divas", but please do not bring entire nations into the argument. Mexican boxers are not divas as a rule, only these two, Canelo and Chavez Jr., have disgraced themselves and everybody knows they are a product of targeted marketing because their sizes and looks are not those of an average Mexican boxer.

Did you even watch the fight previous to the Canelo one? A more typical Mexican warrior won vs. a Japanese warrior, purely by guts. In a brutal fight, unbeaten super featherweight Francisco “El Bandido” Vargas (23-0-1, 17 KOs) dethroned WBC champion Takashi Miura ...

But of course, that one hardly made the news. The Mexican guy won by PURE GUTS and I'm sure that he will not require a catch weight to defend his newly-acquired title against ANYONE.

Oh, why bother anyways. Yeah, everything great Mexican warriors did in their time, will be undone by these pathetic new media-driven divas. Maybe JMM with a broken nose, about to be KO'd and his corner about to throw in the towel, never knocked the hell out of Pacquiao, when he refused to back down an inch, or clinch or run. Or maybe he never recovered from three knock downs in the 1st round of their first fight ever, to come back and get a draw in a fight where many saw him as the winner. Or maybe JCC senior never defeated Roger Mayweather twice, never throwing a superman shot when he was being outsized, outreached, out-jabbed by the much taller guy. Or maybe the great Salvador Sanchez never KO'd Danny Lopez, Azumah Nelson and Wilfredo Gomez, just because the Cinammon kid turned out to be a coward vs. GGG. Whatever you and the other Mexican haters say.

Mexican-hater? You have me wrong. I like Mexicans plenty; so much so that I married and had two kids with one. I did not say that Canelo's diva antics change anything about the individual careers of the great Mexican fighters who came before him, but rather that his cowardess is going to go a long way (and quickly) to unraveling the macho reputation that all of those great fighters helped to establish for Mexico. Mexican fighters, by and large, are considered tough and courageous SOBs; thanks to a long history of Mexican fighters who fit that description and took on all-comers. Canelo also fit that description until very recently, and that's what has people so frustrated. I actually don't think its him really, but rather his management team (especially Oscar) who, very wisely, have decided that a second loss might derail a sure-fire superstar and cash cow for Golden Boy Promotions. TBH, it probably does make business sense to hold this fight off (for one year max), but Canelo really needed to come up with a better explanation. His A-side diva bull**** is just chapping everyone's ass.

[tiliheels]

Why is that? Anyone can fight anyone, but it's bull**** for a smaller guy to take a title by bringing his opponent below the weight class limit.

ok i see your delimma..but like i said some big fights happen at cw...rigo lomo possible..guys like floyd get to go to his last weight class by weigh of cw to futher prove they can beat bigger men...but i see your point..i would be happy if they dropped the belt right away....that doesnt happen so now i see why you are mad..maybe the sactions bodies should say yes u can defend at a cw for guys who are not at that weight, but not for guys at the weight..and if the guy who came up wins the beltt from you his next defense has to be at 160lbs unless he is bringing a guy up or he is stripped

[ИATAS]

I figured this was going to be one of those misleading titles but nope, he actually said that while in the same breath saying anyone who wants to fight Canelo has to come to 155 pounds.