Why arent Canelo and Bradley in the p4p list they have better resumes than many on it

[therealpugilist]

Anyway I have Canelo on mine but not Bradley.

thanks for answering my original simple question

[DreamerUSA]

Canelo has fought Cotto, Lara, Trout, Mosely and Mayweather and only has one loss


Bradley has been fighting world champions and titlists back to back since his 140 days


even Khan and Danny Garcia have extensive resumes and not many losses, Garcia has had close fights but is undefeated

Broner with a few wins could have consideration as well.....4 weight titlist and only 25

Are they putting to much into the eye test, and less on the level of opposition and ability to succeed going up in weight

Its all subjective. I think entirely too much credit is given for guys moving up in weight, especially when you are talking over the course of a career. Broner moving up to 147 from 135 is more impressive to me than his 4 weight class achievement, considering who he beat for those belts, even if it was against Paulie. I think too much credit is given for what someone did years ago as opposed to what they are doing now. Manny is a perfect example of that to me, its like the list includes a participation award or something. Anyways, until someone comes up with a solid set of criteria, most lists will get **** on for various reasons. Hell I know I would get straight blasted for a few of the guys I would include, because I go off more of what I see than anything.

[boliodogs]

I am sure both of them will start showing up more and more in top 10 pound for pound lists after the beautiful fights both of them fought in their latest fights. Give it a little time and it will sink in how consistently good both of these boxers are.

[boliodogs]

Its all subjective. I think entirely too much credit is given for guys moving up in weight, especially when you are talking over the course of a career. Broner moving up to 147 from 135 is more impressive to me than his 4 weight class achievement, considering who he beat for those belts, even if it was against Paulie. I think too much credit is given for what someone did years ago as opposed to what they are doing now. Manny is a perfect example of that to me, its like the list includes a participation award or something. Anyways, until someone comes up with a solid set of criteria, most lists will get **** on for various reasons. Hell I know I would get straight blasted for a few of the guys I would include, because I go off more of what I see than anything.

I agree moving up is overrated. I don't think moving up in weight makes anyone a better fighter. It just makes them a bigger fighter. What should matter most is how good you are for the weight class you are in right now, today. A boxer should find his best weight class and stay there and try to dominate that class. Pryor, Monzon, Bob Foster, and Hagler all stayed mainly or completely in one weight class and they are all considered all time greats.

[toshmurph]

Canelo has fought Cotto, Lara, Trout, Mosely and Mayweather and only has one loss


Bradley has been fighting world champions and titlists back to back since his 140 days


even Khan and Danny Garcia have extensive resumes and not many losses, Garcia has had close fights but is undefeated

Broner with a few wins could have consideration as well.....4 weight titlist and only 25

Are they putting to much into the eye test, and less on the level of opposition and ability to succeed going up in weight

How about you give an example of who he should replace on the list instead of rhyming of their wins?

Also, Broner... GTFO

[soul_survivor]

Bradley will never get the respect he deserves because he is American plain and simple. It's funny how everyone disrespects the greatest country on earth yet beg to fight or make money here

Huuuuuh? Did you go full ******? Never go full ******.

Anyway, back to reality, I think TB is in a lot of p4p lists and has been on mine for quite some time.

Canelo has never really clearly beaten anyone of note to be a top 5 but could be bottom half of top 10. I once had him at 10. But he is definitely top 20, no doubt.

[jose.sooto]

Tim Bradley P4P?... really?

Dude's last three fights are fckin bum bum rios, jesse vergas an diego chaves, that ain't no god damn P4P schedule. Plus his performance in those fights has been average at best besides the KO of bum bum Rios.

As far as Nelo goes, it's just that he just hasnt been dominant enough imo, he has the names i give you that...but what has he done in the ring with them for his skills to be considered P4P?

sht if having the names on your resume would mean everything josesito lopez and jesus soto karass would be ATG P4P's..

[aldo5408]

Huuuuuh? Did you go full ******? Never go full ******.

Anyway, back to reality, I think TB is in a lot of p4p lists and has been on mine for quite some time.

Canelo has never really clearly beaten anyone of note to be a top 5 but could be bottom half of top 10. I once had him at 10. But he is definitely top 20, no doubt.

Shut up idiot
Bradley stops khan and you know it

[soul_survivor]

Shut up idiot
Bradley stops khan and you know it

what's that got to do with anything?

and for your information, bradley skipped out on the khan fight years ago, so...