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    #31
    Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
    It is definitely a record.

    Yes Chavez Sr went 87-0 or whatever it was, but he did not retire. The record is, which of those fighters that retired with a PERFECT record, retired with the most wins? That is the record. JCC did not retire with the perfect record, Lopez did not retire with a perfect record.

    Marciano 49-0 is retiring with a perfect record.
    Mayweather 49-0 is retiring with a perfect record.
    Calzaghe 46-0 is retiring with a perfect record.

    That IS a record, a specific one, but it is a record. So stop the myth that "That's not a record, it has been broken". Yes, there's been fighters i'm sure with 100-200 fights that surpassed 49-0 undefeated, with the help of a padded record, but they did not retire so their record in this category is null.

    In Baseball, Basketball, Football, there's a record for almost everything. Especially baseball, baseball has such specific records like, most home runs by a player against a certain team. It's a record, it doesn't mean that the player has the most home runs of all time. There's stats like, best post-season batting average. Records are not black and white, it's the same with this one. It's a specific record for those who retired with perfect records, who had the most wins from those perfect record holders.
    ok ok I see where ur coming from in this case ur correct

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      #32
      The record is overhyped of recent because floyd just done it. I highly doubt boxers aim to break that record! Imagine if Chavez Sr just got to say 60-0 then just said i'm done, record broken. Or if Gonzalez decided to fight bums till he got to 50-0 then retired.

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        #33
        Originally posted by -Kev- View Post
        It is definitely a record.

        Yes Chavez Sr went 87-0 or whatever it was, but he did not retire. The record is, which of those fighters that retired with a PERFECT record, retired with the most wins? That is the record. JCC did not retire with the perfect record, Lopez did not retire with a perfect record.

        Marciano 49-0 is retiring with a perfect record.
        Mayweather 49-0 is retiring with a perfect record.
        Calzaghe 46-0 is retiring with a perfect record.

        That IS a record, a specific one, but it is a record. So stop the myth that "That's not a record, it has been broken". Yes, there's been fighters i'm sure with 100-200 fights that surpassed 49-0 undefeated, with the help of a padded record, but they did not retire so their record in this category is null.

        In Baseball, Basketball, Football, there's a record for almost everything. Especially baseball, baseball has such specific records like, most home runs by a player against a certain team. It's a record, it doesn't mean that the player has the most home runs of all time. There's stats like, best post-season batting average. Records are not black and white, it's the same with this one. It's a specific record for those who retired with perfect records, who had the most wins from those perfect record holders.
        Finally a guy who really understands Marciano/Mayweather record.I'm f#cking tired with those "Chavez had 87-0" or "it's only for heavyweights"

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          #34
          Roman will break that record easy but it counts for little when you're not fighting in the dangerous division where one punch can change the game.

          Not saying these smaller guys can't finish it with one punch its just nowhere near as likely to happen as it is in the heavyweights, Marcianos record wont ever be truly beat.

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            #35
            Well as of now it is Marciano/Mayweather's record

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              #36
              Originally posted by Jimmy 23 View Post
              Finally a guy who really understands Marciano/Mayweather record.I'm f#cking tired with those "Chavez had 87-0" or "it's only for heavyweights"
              It most certainly is "a record" but it's an overhyped record! IMO there are much better and more valued records in boxing! For example Joe Louis' 25 defences of his world title!

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                #37
                Originally posted by b00g13man View Post
                Loooooooooooooooooool. Fail!!!
                Tell me why it's a "fail"??

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                  #38
                  if there are fighters who retired 59-0 and 51-0, how the hell is 49-0 a record?

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                    if there are fighters who retired 59-0 and 51-0, how the hell is 49-0 a record?


                    Come on Tua. Read my post please.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                      if there are fighters who retired 59-0 and 51-0, how the hell is 49-0 a record?
                      Those guys had draws. Mayweather and Rock have officially unblemished marks. A draw is a blemish.

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