Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[ADP02]

Good to have you back! Floyd cheated! Nothing will ever happen! No asterisk next to his name!
He beat PAC easily!

Or.

Floyd didn't cheat and beat PAC easily.

Either way PAC was beaten easily! I expected more from pumpkin head PAC but he couldn't beat a great defensive boxer. He lacked the mauling skills Castillo & Maidana applied.

His one dimensional approach to Floyd was ineffective. He did his best.

He should fight Thurman and get KTFO and pass the torch!

Thanks ....

but everyone has their point of views.

Lets say someone would agree with your statement that Floyd won easily but if Floyd cheated, then does it really matter?

Secondly, the so called one dimensional Manny who fought with one arm and Floyd hugged, head locked and so on all night long, yet Manny actually had the better moments. Very few Floyd moments. If there were more, we would be seeing them from the Floyd fans but they are practically non-existent. In fact, some of the best moves were made by that so called one dimensional Manny.

For me, it was not an easy fight for Floyd. It was a close fight. Rounds that were given to Floyd could have and in some cases should have gone to Manny.

Floyd fought even more defensively than usual. His daddy said he fought scared. Even after the fight, the respect for Manny was there. There is a reason why.

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Manny failed! He lacked what he needed to win. No amount of PEDs could have changed the result!

Might have made his head bigger, but punk'n head lost. Floyd cheated or didn't, but he clowned PAC! Made him look like the street vendor he is! Talaga!

Floyd's PEDs and other advantages that he tries to get in his fights make a difference.

Ben Johnson went from a bronze medalist to gold and breaking records. Lance Armstrong went to being someone with potential to winning 7 Tour de Frances. Barry Bonds, McGuire and Sosa went on to breaking records.

When Khan tried to do some tricks against Peterson, he got points deducted. Hatton got a point deducted for not even doing anything to Floyd. Floyd can do his illegal tactics and get away with it all night long. Makes a big difference. There is a reason why they marketed Maidana as a KO artist then took away his weapon. No, its not for "health comes first". Its because Floyd removes his opponent's advantages.

[Zaroku]

Thanks ....

but everyone has their point of views.

Lets say someone would agree with your statement that Floyd won easily but if Floyd cheated, then does it really matter?

Secondly, the so called one dimensional Manny who fought with one arm and Floyd hugged, head locked and so on all night long, yet Manny actually had the better moments. Very few Floyd moments. If there were more, we would be seeing them from the Floyd fans but they are practically non-existent. In fact, some of the best moves were made by that so called one dimensional Manny.

For me, it was not an easy fight for Floyd. It was a close fight. Rounds that were given to Floyd could have and in some cases should have gone to Manny.

Floyd fought even more defensively than usual. His daddy said he fought scared. Even after the fight, the respect for Manny was there. There is a reason why.

A motivational speech doesn't give PAC the win!

Cotto has a legit claim to bad judging!
PAC got beat! Marquez almost killed him!
Floyd out boxed PAC, and PAC couldn't bring the heat like Castillo & Maidana.

PAC failed. Lacks the skills or guts to get rough in the trenches.

[Zaroku]

Floyd's PEDs and other advantages that he tries to get in his fights make a difference.

Ben Johnson went from a bronze medalist to gold and breaking records. Lance Armstrong went to being someone with potential to winning 7 Tour de Frances. Barry Bonds, McGuire and Sosa went on to breaking records.

When Khan tried to do some tricks against Peterson, he got points deducted. Hatton got a point deducted for not even doing anything to Floyd. Floyd can do his illegal tactics and get away with it all night long. Makes a big difference. There is a reason why they marketed Maidana as a KO artist then took away his weapon. No, its not for "health comes first". Its because Floyd removes his opponent's advantages.

Removing advantages shows how smart Floyd is! Even got rid of Tony Weeks because he didn't want to be man handled again in his Maidana rematch!

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The Law Of Diminishing Returns

and videos of floyd being randomly drug tested by USADA from Ortiz till berto

That is your response? Then you ask why we say that all you Floyd fans do is deflect.

YOU Floyd fans made the case that Manny was on PEDs and "faked the injury" with no proof of either. Did you wait for an investigation and a conclusion or you didn't need all that? Just asking?

How about showing us your proof? Oh, you don't have that either? SO go on with your deflection in 3, 2, 1 ............

Haven't we reached the crucial breaking point yet, where the energy we expend on an issue far outweighs whether we're heard of if anything will ever be done? It's the equivalent of working for free, but then paying for your work in terms of time and commitment eventually. No one is listening to you, or cares to, you're converting no one or persuading anyone. Other members sometimes pop their head in this thread surprised its still going until they see your ultra committed posts, the trademark of delusion, and go about dismissing whatever they read after that.

My contention about the iv issue is that it's only an issue to people that don't like Floyd for whatever particular reason, they have to ask themselves that and hopefully (honestly) answer it. This is absolutely not to say that PEDs or cheating in any form is acceptable or everyone questioning this behavior is offbase. It simply isn't but even a blind, deaf and dumb person can see the hate simmering underneath these laughable accusations. This is why I'm not dumb enough to directly engage any of you in this nonsense, because it never ends, there's always a ready rationalization waiting that conveniently goes against Mayweather and allows more useless **** to bubble up.

The problem with this of course is that people eventually end up wondering what's wrong with you guys or even me for ****ing with you like I do. There's no investigation, not even a whiff of one except some of you cats coming on here wrong and strong claiming the investigation is coming and proof of phantom PEDs but there's none. And what's worse, you cook up your own accusations and expect someone that isn't under investigation to defend himself as if he were? That's ****ing moronically ******ed.

Whatever you guys thought you would get isn't materializing so you gotta start asking yourself if you're "sane" is this really worth it?

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A motivational speech doesn't give PAC the win!

Cotto has a legit claim to bad judging!
PAC got beat! Marquez almost killed him!
Floyd out boxed PAC, and PAC couldn't bring the heat like Castillo & Maidana.

PAC failed. Lacks the skills or guts to get rough in the trenches.

After the Marquez fight and considering the shoulder injury, the game plan changed. They made it a technical fight. That is the issue since like you, everyone expected a more aggressive Manny. So the perception is that since Manny didn't come blazing in every round, then the round should automatically go to Floyd.

Well, that is perception. The reality is that Manny had more quality moments than Floyd and should have won more rounds. the Nevada judges gave Floyd all the close and some rounds that should have gone to Manny.

Dave Moretti has judged like 9 of last 11 Floyd fights. He gave Maidana no credit in fight 1 yet he was the judge for their 2nd fight. You think Maidana had a chance? There is something clearly wrong there. Fishy!!!

Cotto should have got more rounds but not enough to win the fight. Really bad judging that cost the fight was Bradley beating Manny controversially.

[ADP02]

Removing advantages shows how smart Floyd is! Even got rid of Tony Weeks because he didn't want to be man handled again in his Maidana rematch!

Well, in my books, that is why people complain about Floyd fights. How can one say he won this and that without bringing up these points? Cherry picks opponents then takes away advantages.

To the casual fan they may miss all that but not when you have been watching boxing as long as some of us have.

[ADP02]

Haven't we reached the crucial breaking point yet, where the energy we expend on an issue far outweighs whether we're heard of if anything will ever be done? It's the equivalent of working for free, but then paying for your work in terms of time and commitment eventually. No one is listening to you, or cares to, you're converting no one or persuading anyone. Other members sometimes pop their head in this thread surprised its still going until they see your ultra committed posts, the trademark of delusion, and go about dismissing whatever they read after that.

My contention about the iv issue is that it's only an issue to people that don't like Floyd for whatever particular reason, they have to ask themselves that and hopefully (honestly) answer it. This is absolutely not to say that PEDs or cheating in any form is acceptable or everyone questioning this behavior is offbase. It simply isn't but even a blind, deaf and dumb person can see the hate simmering underneath these laughable accusations. This is why I'm not dumb enough to directly engage any of you in this nonsense, because it never ends, there's always a ready rationalization waiting that conveniently goes against Mayweather and allows more useless **** to bubble up.

The problem with this of course is that people eventually end up wondering what's wrong with you guys or even me for ****ing with you like I do. There's no investigation, not even a whiff of one except some of you cats coming on here wrong and strong claiming the investigation is coming and proof of phantom PEDs but there's none. And what's worse, you cook up your own accusations and expect someone that isn't under investigation to defend himself as if he were? That's ****ing moronically ******ed.

Whatever you guys thought you would get isn't materializing so you gotta start asking yourself if you're "sane" is this really worth it?

So you finally admit that you have nothing and just deflecting. Well that is what we have been telling you and it took 700+ pages for you to admit to that. Still, you are not being totally truthful. The real reason you do not is because YOU CANNOT come with any valid evidence to change the conversation around. Right?

We continue to bring up factual evidence and just ask for some good counter points that are backed up with evidence but you cannot so you resort to deflecting.

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So you finally admit that you have nothing and just deflecting. Well that is what we have been telling you and it took 700+ pages for you to admit to that. Still, you are not being totally truthful. The real reason you do not is because YOU CANNOT come with any valid evidence to change the conversation around. Right?

We continue to bring up factual evidence and just ask for some good counter points that are backed up with evidence but you cannot so you resort to deflecting.

Boy you can't read huh?

[ADP02]

Boy you can't read huh?

I read then threw away the crap and that is what came out!

You said that you do not directly engage then as I pointed out, you are dishonest and bring up excuses. Right? So that is another way of saying, you deflect!