Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[embryo]

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha, Floyd just out trophied Usain Bolt.

tue tue tue . . . louder TUE TUE TUE

Gold Medal in 100 meter dash lmao

[Zaroku]

Well considering Floyd owns Vegas, all the judges and his referee Bayless, I don't think anything will change. I doubt any of the sanctioning bodies are going to take away Floyds "historic" 49-0. Although I think that may actually be GOOD for boxing, it will make a majority of boxing fans happy, and people may start to have a tiny bit of faith in the sport having some dignity.

I almost hate bayless. I enjoyed the Floyd vs Maidana fight immensely. Seeing Floyd look at Tony Weeks, hoping for a reprieve was great stuff. Bayless was too involved in the rematch. Floyd won't fight without bayless in his corner.

[ADP02]

1) Floyd was dehydrated, and you admitted yourself. You're just cherry picking ''severely'' or ''significant.'' Severe dehydration can be anywhere from 1000-2000ml per 4-6hr period. That's a medical practice. IV's are administered in the medical world for dehydration, so keep in mind of those facts before contextualizing anti-doping scenarios. Results were negative. How do you mask in 24hrs? No PED plot yet huh...

2) Ironically, you don't mention a ''severely'' torn rotator cuff? You do realize that the boxing world was informed that Pacquiao had a severely torn rotator cuff. Again, another adjvective to highlight specific detail like ''significant.'' This can't be the twilight zone is it?! You do realize that when Floyd used to fight on HBO, Jim Lampley, Emmanuel Stewart, and Larry Merchant would occassionally talk about FLoyd's hands being hurt. Why would they make that up? Did Floyd make excuses? You do realize that Prince Naseem quit boxing because his hands gave up. He literally said that. You want me to find the video for you on Youtube?

Why are you bringing up Floyd's hands? I think you are getting confused. Floyd had a torn rotator cuff when he fought Castillo and miraculously came back very quick. No proof but his fans didn't request for evidence or didn't say it was BS. Please show me all that evidence.


Oh what a surprise. You didn't show me that Floyd was dehydrated yet you believed every word. How come? You Floyd fans need to stay consistent at least. With Manny there was evidence yet you do not beliive Manny was injured. Floyd fans are strange.

USADA/WADA do NOT recommend IVs and actually recommend oral hydration over IVs and say that they are more effective. They also put IVs on the prohibited list. So that makes to points where you are wrong. Lastly, if you want to know the definition about dehydration its when you use or lose more fluid than you take in and so you need to replenish what you lost to get hydrated again.

BUT then there are levels of dehydration.
Again, you did not give any evidence that Floyd was severely dehydrated.


I gave you evidence and witnesses.
- NSAC doctor had not seen any signs of dehydration.
- The numbers do not lie. Blood pressure and pulse rate was normal.
- Floyd weighed in like he always does. Around 146lbs. If he was severely dehydrated, Floyd would weigh less than that. So it does not add up!!!
- can't be severely dehydrated due to giving urine
- can't be severely dehydrated due to giving blood 10 days before
- can't be severely dehydrated due to intense prolonged workouts because its May 1st. Boxer who easily makes weight does not intentionally stress out their body!!!
- Floyd had 3 chances to state on pre-fight form that he was dehydrated and an required IV. NOTHING on the form.
- Floyd didn't state to the NSAC doctor that he was severely dehydrated and needed immediate care.
- Floyd fans said he looked great at the weigh in
- Floyd drank quite a bit of fluids during the weigh in..
- Lots of time had elapsed since USADA saw Floyd. Why did it take so long to get fluids into Floyd?
- Floyd wanted Manny to sign a contract so that Floyd can get an OV without anyone knowing about it.


I gave you lots of evidence and comments. You gave me NOTHING to back up your silly statements!!!

Please show me all that evidence.

If there was just one thing that supports our statement, I could see why one would be asking for more but I gave you many points above.
Lets see you dispute them all. I dare you.






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[DeandreXI]

Well that is bull****. Did you watch Pacquiao at bantam and lightweight. The man was a ****ing buzzsaw. He was no where near as overpowering at welterweight than we was at his natural weight. His physical dominance at his natural weight is only masked by the divisions being full of hall of famers in MAB, JMM, and Morales.

Come on dude. He was knocking and beating guys like Cotto, Margarito, Hatton, Ledwaba and Clottey 4 like they were tomato cans lol. He was coming up in weight and division and he was not losing speed while keeping his power and stamina.

[DeandreXI]

nice logic.

Pac knocking out guys in his prime - suspected of PEDs

You bet he's on it. Those memo shakes are the ****.

[embryo]

So it looks like the Floyd fans have accepted that Floyd cheated after losing every single argument on here, and now they are just resorting to saying "well, Manny did it too!"

[hardvibes]

I can't stand this ish anymore

Henry Armstrong’s Career Defends Manny Pacquiao from Mayweather Drug Slander


The boxing world has had to listen to Floyd Mayweather and his band of slandering accomplices defame and smear Manny Pacquiao as a drug cheat for several years without any defense. For years this virulent smear campaign against Pacquiao has manipulated a great number of boxing fans to suspect Pacquiao of using drugs despite not a shred of evidence, and despite the fact that Pacquiao successfully sued Mayweather and his band of slanderous accomplices, so that Mayweather threw in the towel and settled the case with Pacquiao’s lawyers for quite a hefty sum.
This issue shows how if one corrupt individual concocts a ****** lie and repeats it over and over, with some help from bought-and-paid for media puppets, and some prominent boxing figures like Paulie Malignaggi who will say whatever his puppetmaster Al Haymon want him to say, the public easily can be influenced to believe a complete hoax.

Let me illustrate: the great Henry Armstrong turned pro at the age of eighteen in 1931 with a TKO 3 loss to Al Iovino (bet you didn’t know Hammerin’ Hank lost his pro debut) in North Braddock, PA, weighing 120 pounds – when Manny Pacquiao was eleven days shy of his eighteenth birthday he had a fight and weighed in at 111 (Pac debuted at age sixteen and weighed 106) Okay, there’s a little discrepancy there, but it’s doubtful Armstrong, born in Columbus, Mississippi, lived in such poverty like Pacquiao that he was forced to share a bowl of rice with five siblings as his one meal a day growing up in the Philippines.
Let’s continue: At age 23 Pacquiao weighed 122 for two fights in 2001 – Armstrong weighed 126 for a fight the week before his 23rd birthday (TKO Alton Black in Reno). There are several other parallels between Pacquiao and Armstrong – both stood 5-5 1/2 inches tall and both had 57 inch arm reaches – and both were born in December – Pac on the 17th in 1978, Hank on the 12th in 1912. Armstrong’s career was far busier than Pacquiao – Hank’s final ring record when he retired in February of ’45 at the age of 32 was 150-21-10 with 101 knockouts – for his last fight Hank weighed 141 1/2 pounds – Pacquiao, who is still active as a pro today at 36 with a record of 57-6-2 (38 KOs), had two fights at age 33 in 2011 and weighed 143 vs Marquez and 145 vs Mosley. Armstrong was a former Featherweight, Lightweight and Welterweight (held all three belts simultaneously for short time in ’38) and had several fights where he weighed in in the mid 140s.
While it’s been scrutinized with su****ion about Pacquiao retaining his punching power as he moved up to welterweight, Armstrong also was able to maintain his hitting force into the higher weights – in his final full year as a pro, Armstrong fought eighteen times in the welter and sub-welter range and recorded ten stoppage wins in those eighteen contests in ’44.

So the logical conclusion is that Pacquiao and Armstrong, of very similar physical structure and size, both progressed similarly as men and reached their peak full physical maturity at around the same age at the same weight of around 145 – Henry Armstrong was certainly not a steroid or performance enhancing drug user and Pacquiao has never been involved with or linked to drugs or drug coaches, unlike a prime suspect like Mayweather, who has employed the known steroid expert Angel Heredia for himself and his promotional company TMT (two TMT boxers have tested positive for using illegal drugs). Heredia has openly boasted in an interview with Speigel Sport that he personally knows how to create over twenty different steroids which are undetectable to doping testers.
Adding further to su****ions about Mayweather apparent use of performance enhancing drugs, is the fact that he refused a subpoena to reveal three alleged positive tests of his own as part of the Pacquiao defamation lawsuit – and also no less image damaging is the recently reported information about Mayweather’s illegal IV the day before the Pacquiao fight of May 2 of this year, which was covered up by the Nevada Commission and USADA – this IV is suspected to have been used to mask illegal steroids in Mayweather’s body. (Since the story broke, the mainstream media has largely ignored it.)

Also thought-provoking is the fact that Mayweather hired Pacquiao’s former fitness and nutrition coach Alex Ariza, who has had plenty of time and motive to reveal any dirty secrets he may have had with Pacquiao but apparently there is nothing Ariza has to conceal about his work with Pacquiao, because Mayweather and Al Haymon surely would have amply rewarded Ariza to spill the dirt to assassinate Pacquiao’s reputation and character, which they first aspired to do back in 2009. As we know, the truth can be distorted, buried, hidden, disguised but … the truth cannot be killed.

And as time goes by, the facts and evidences show that Manny Pacquiao is a clean athlete and always has been a clean, honest athlete, while Floyd Mayweather is beginning to look more and more like he could very well be the establishment fraud, created and protected and maintained by the power and money hungry establishment — not much unlike the embarrassingly pathetic example of cycling’s former hero turned international shame – Lance Armstrong.

[Zaroku]

Come on dude. He was knocking and beating guys like Cotto, Margarito, Hatton, Ledwaba and Clottey 4 like they were tomato cans lol. He was coming up in weight and division and he was not losing speed while keeping his power and stamina.

I rarely jump in now, it is getting very silly at this point. I only jump in if a guy brings some comedic value. Embryo, the moniker alone is a store house of comedic value. Keep it up men. The world keeps spinning.

Best Regards to all,
Zaroku

[DeandreXI]

So it looks like the Floyd fans have accepted that Floyd cheated after losing every single argument on here, and now they are just resorting to saying "well, Manny did it too!"

Mayweather cheating is becoming one of those urban legends folk tales like bigfoot or something lol.

[DeandreXI]

I rarely jump in now, it is getting very silly at this point. I only jump in if a guy brings some comedic value. Embryo, the moniker alone is a store house of comedic value. Keep it up men. The world keeps spinning.

Best Regards to all,
Zaroku

Hilarity will always ensue when you talk to Pac fans tbh lol