Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[tangalog2200]

As I've said before if it was just to comply with nsac there would have been no need for the tue, because nsac have no rules against iv use. Mayweather wanted to comply with wada international standards so he requested and was granted a tue, and so far there's no evidence that it was issued fraudulently, just a whole lot of talk that amounts to nothing.

But of course you can't understand that, not without a video anyway.

to comply weeks later after breaking the rules?

they were compelled to "comply" 3 weeks later because they were so alarmed that a leak will be out in the open and they have to inform, though belatedly nsac and pac..

[ADP02]

After all that...it's still only a story in one thread on boxingscene. Maybe it's just not a story and the last desperate straw you have left?

after ALL THAT? Floyd is looked at in a different way.

[DeadLikeMe]

after ALL THAT? Floyd is looked at in a different way.

Keep hope alive, together you can erase Manny's failure!

[ADP02]

You're right, it is a joke, when a gaggle of malcontents get together and decide to build a paper castle just before it's about to rain. Where are the other sources from Floyd's camp that nail this down incontrovertibly? Where is the universal outrage outside of people that don't wish this guy well no matter what? Where is the objective criticism that is separate and distinct from the butt hurt?

Whether Arum knew it or not he created a "golden calf" in Pacquiao, an effigy of insubstantial form but all-powerful in meaning, and his fans bought it. All Arum did was create a figure people wanted to see so in many way he reminds me of Aaron from the Old Testament, Exodus 32: 1 - 4:

"When the people saw that Moses was so long in coming down from the mountain, they gathered around Aaron and said, “Come, make us gods[a] who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don’t know what has happened to him.”

2 Aaron answered them, “Take off the gold earrings that your wives, your sons and your daughters are wearing, and bring them to me.” 3 So all the people took off their earrings and brought them to Aaron. 4 He took what they handed him and made it into an idol cast in the shape of a calf, fashioning it with a tool. Then they said, “These are your gods,[b] Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.”

Some Lance Armstrong fans felt the same about their hero. They thought that media and everyone were just haters. Only once Lance actually confessed did they believe ...... Until then, they were in denial tooo.

So its OK.

[embryo]

So why did Floyd REFUSE to do the ESPN interview UNLESS they WOULD NOT ask him about the IV scandal? What's he afraid of?

[ADP02]

Keep hope alive, together you can erase Manny's failure!

Yup, Floyd will hopefully confess ......

[embryo]

Also why wouldn't Floyd just drink some water if he was dehydrated...using an IV ro re-hydrate is much less beneficial if you are going to exert yourself than if you just drink. This is made clear in the article.

[AllEyesOpen]

why would WADA require TUE if there was nothing wrong about IV infusion in the first place?

why did he waited 19 days to apply for TUE? USADA was right there when Floyd was being administered with IV they could have done that right there and then.

Does WADA require any fighter wanting to apply for TUE must wait 19 days after the administration of the IV before they could apply for TUE?

not without a video you say

to comply weeks later after breaking the rules?

they were compelled to "comply" 3 weeks later because they were so alarmed that a leak will be out in the open and they have to inform, though belatedly nsac and pac..

Wrong, the tue was approved 3 weeks later after being reviewed by a tuec as per wada standards. Read them some time and your weak arguments might make sense. You'd like to make the discussion about Mayweather cheating, and claim speculation as fact, but the truth is the issue is if Mayweather followed the appropriate guidelines for needing an iv for dehydration, and so far there's no reason to think he did not.

I wouldn't imagine in a million years that Arum wouldn't want to prove his highest grossing fighter was robbed by a cheater, yet once again no one directly involved sees this as anything, the only people trying to make this a conspiracy are the same who were crying about slomo videos and salty shoulder injuries.

[embryo]

Btw Floyd fans questioning Hausers credibility with all the medical related information, the NSAC Medical Records for Floyd were released and available to see in Hausers second article. That is where he got all the data, which is unquestionable based on the source. Sorry!

[embryo]

(1) The USADA statement goes to great lengths to discredit Victor Conte, attacking him on three separate occasions for past misdeeds (which I referenced in “Can Boxing Trust USADA?”). USADA also states that I “cherry picked Jeff Novitzky’s response to questions posed to him by Mr. Rogan regarding Victor Conte.”

Mr. Novitzky’s remarks came in an interview conducted by Joe Rogan last month (The Joe Rogan Experience #685). In that interview, Mr. Rogan and Mr. Novitzky also discussed IVs. Let’s pick a whole barrel of cherries:

Joe Rogan: “What’s the reason why they can’t use an IV? Is it to mask possible performance enhancing drugs?”

Jeff Novitzsky: “That’s the primary reason. I saw it up front and center in cycling. They were using IVs of saline solution to manipulate their blood level readings, which were being used to determine if they were blood doping. It could also be used to flush a system. It dilutes blood and urine so that natural steroid profiles are very hard to read after you’ve taken an IV bag. That’s the primary reason. WADA also prohibits them for some health reasons. When an IV is administered, especially close to a competition, there’s a possibility of blowing out a vein or having clotting after the IV is taken out. There could be some issues with edema and swelling. If the idea is to rehydrate, it’s much safer to do it orally. Studies show that orally rehydrating is better for you if you’re mildly dehydrated. There’s two things that they show consistently. Number one, it’s obviously safer to put something through your mouth than put it in a needle in your vein. Number two, your perceived rate of exertion, how hard you feel you’re working after rehydrating orally, is less than if you rehydrate via IV. If you rehydrate orally properly, the next day you’re going to feel a whole lot better when you’re exerting yourself.”

“Now that’s mild dehydration,” Novitzky added. As for extreme dehydration, Novitzky suggested, “You probably should go to a hospital. [And] I think you need to notify the commission where you’re fighting.”

If Floyd Mayweather was dehydrated after the May 1 weigh-in, the USADA doping control officer could have given him several glasses of water. USADA has yet to explain the medical justification and supporting data that led it to grant a retroactive the****utic use exemption nineteen days after the fact for a procedure that’s on the World Anti-Doping Agency’s “Prohibited Substances and Methods List”.