Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[Zaroku]

If you were paying attention I replied to you earlier when you were constantly saying it was 8 to 4 Floyd. I said no way it was 8 to 4, Floyd won that fight much easier and by a wider margin. But In all honesty I could care less. That fight was all hype and was never going to live up to expectations. Which I why I didn't buy it but instead watch it a week later.

Plus I've been only going back and forth with you because I was just questioning you on Floyd and how you don't attach yourself to one fighter and how you think all top guys are dirty but in this thread all you have been doing was defend Floyd and underhandedly bash pac. Something Floyd fanboys do on this thread and so I have been calling you out on it and questioning you.

I look at things fairly and evenly and hug on to only boxing not just fighters.

I've always stated I think pac was dirty in the past and more than likely clean now. And also that I think Floyd is dirty and has been for a while. If some scandal broke about pac and peds I'd be all over him and bashing him and claim my feeling I have had about him are validated.

But this is a Floyd IV scandal thread so thats the topic. It's known he has had past positive test swept under the rug and covered up. So su****ion has always been there with him and now with this scandal it just validates his PED usage.

I was just wondering how you could view a fight as wider when you dismissed it as meaningless due to PED usage.
Just curiosity. My gut tells me Floyd is dirty. My point all along in many threads before you ever focused on me.

But I also believe, in my gut, they all cheat. It is very sad.

But since I am not the arbiter of Justice, I go back to my point, my opinion, based on what I saw, not what my spider senses tell me, 8 rds to 4, Floyd won, which is what I have been saying all along.

It is wider for you, but I don't agree.

I am not contesting PED usage, merely casting a wider net, then returning to what I saw, my opinion, of what happened in the ring. You see it as much wider, I do not. Agree to disagree? Shall we?

Thanks for your input.
Best regards,
Zaroku

[Lester Tutor]

And your evidence that Froid was dehydrated is what exactly? USADA never once said he was you know.

it hurts doesn't it?

Here's your homework. Study the sentence. Analyze it. Good luck!

''Mayweather showed no significant signs of dehydration at his pre-fight physical examination...'' -Hauser

[GTTofAK]

it hurts doesn't it?

Here's your homework. Study the sentence. Analyze it. Good luck!

''Mayweather showed no significant signs of dehydration at his pre-fight physical examination...'' -Hauser

So what where the insignificant signs of dehydration you think he showed?

Please list them.

You are aware what significances means aren't you.

You have to stop getting in these arguments with me. You should realize by now that you are ******.

[boxinghead530]

I was just wondering how you could view a fight as wider when you dismissed it as meaningless due to PED usage.
Just curiosity. My gut tells me Floyd is dirty. My point all along in many threads before you ever focused on me.

But I also believe, in my gut, they all cheat. It is very sad.

But since I am not the arbiter of Justice, I go back to my point, my opinion, based on what I saw, not what my spider senses tell me, 8 rds to 4, Floyd won, which is what I have been saying all along.

It is wider for you, but I don't agree.

I am not contesting PED usage, merely casting a wider net, then returning to what I saw, my opinion, of what happened in the ring. You see it as much wider, I do not. Agree to disagree? Shall we?

Thanks for your input.
Best regards,
Zaroku

It's all good my boxing friends. It's cool that you think Floyd won 8 to 4. But before all this scandal broke which was over a month ago I had always thought Floyd won by a wider margin than 8 to 4.

Plus this thread isn't about the outcome of the fight it's about his IV scandal. I just look at your constant statement of always saying 8 to 4 is your way throwing it back in pac fans face. Which to me doesn't matter.

[The Big Dunn]

I didn't see anything new about "IV gate" on the news last week nor the week before.

Maybe tomorrow the paper will have something on it and also post the powerball numbers from May 4th.

[Slip Stream]

I didn't see anything new about "IV gate" on the news last week nor the week before.

Maybe tomorrow the paper will have something on it and also post the powerball numbers from May 4th.

Nor did I, near as I can tell this is a very important issue among a small but dedicated following of Manny Pacquiao. To them an IV is all they need to invalidate a fight that has caused them so much pain. It's raining today must be PEDs, my girlfriend won't give me anything must be PEDs, was sick a couple days last week had to be PEDs, and Mayweather won, no way, must be PEDs....

[Mr. Punch-Out!!]

I didn't see anything new about "IV gate" on the news last week nor the week before.

Maybe tomorrow the paper will have something on it and also post the powerball numbers from May 4th.

Well, you got this:

[The Big Dunn]

Nor did I, near as I can tell this is a very important issue among a small but dedicated following of Manny Pacquiao. To them an IV is all they need to invalidate a fight that has caused them so much pain. It's raining today must be PEDs, my girlfriend won't give me anything must be PEDs, was sick a couple days last week had to be PEDs, and Mayweather won, no way, must be PEDs....

LOL! They will do anything to get the decision reversed.

Well, you got this:

OK. I didn't see wait a second this is another Hauser article. Man GTFOH. I meant credible news sites.

Does he have any credibility left?

[DeadLikeMe]

LOL! They will do anything to get the decision reversed.



OK. I didn't see wait a second this is another Hauser article. Man GTFOH. I meant credible news sites.

Does he have any credibility left?

They were demanding Manny's failure be reversed because the composite scorecard had the wrong corner colors.

[IR0NFIST]

New article released today by Thomas Hauser -

Mayweather was given a pre-fight physical examination by the Nevada State Athletic Commission on the day of the weigh-in. Did he disclose to commission doctors at that time that he was so badly dehydrated that he needed an IV infusion? No, he did not. Nor, according to NSAC records, did the examining physician find evidence of dehydration.

If a fighter is dehydrated, his blood pressure is likely to be low and his pulse rate high. That wasn’t the case with Mayweather as evidenced by the Nevada State Athletic Commission medical data sheet.

Mayweather’s blood pressure was 118/84. In other words, his systolic blood pressure (pressure when the heart is contracting and pumping blood out) was 118. And his diastolic blood pressure (pressure when the heart is resting between beats) was 84. That’s normal for a professional athlete.

Mayweather’s pulse rate – 60 sitting and 66 standing – was also normal.

When a ring doctor tells a fighter to open his mouth wide at a pre-fight physical examination, the doctor isn’t looking for cavities. He’s checking for loose teeth and cuts inside the mouth. The doctor is also checking the mucous membrane lining inside the fighter’s mouth for signs of dehydration. Furthermore, if a fighter is dehydrated, there are additional signs of that condition in his skin turgor (the time it takes for skin to return to its original position after being pinched). Neither of these conditions was noted by the examining doctor.

To repeat: Mayweather showed no significant signs of dehydration at his pre-fight physical examination. So . . . If the purpose of the IV that was administered to Mayweather wasn’t to combat dehydration, what was it for?

The plot thickens...