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    Collazo & Herrera: Differences In The Cut Reaction Caused By The Al Haymon Effect?

    Many were shocked to see Collazo retire on his stool against Thurman after what seemed like a minor cut. He's always been known as a tough, gritty fighter who would never quit.

    Collazo said "I couldn't see clearly out of my eye. Didn't want to take unnecessary shots especially at this point in my career."

    Isn't that what the doctor is there for, to determine how serious an injury is? Why was Collazo so comfortable with retiring? He just shrugged his shoulders and quit as if it was nothing.

    Collazo also said: "I want to fight again and I will. I'll be back!"

    It was like Collazo knew he'd be back in the ring regardless of the outcome. Now I strongly suspect this boils down to the contract signed with Al Haymon. We've seen such deal structures before with lots of Haymon fighters, Floyd being the obvious example:- 6 Showtime fights with $32M per fight guaranteed. Collazo must have a similar deal structure - for example 6 fights with guaranteed $500K per fight minimum purse, or some sort of variation of that.

    And is this why Collazo didn't feel compelled to fight on because he knew that he had future paydays already lined up. By signing contracts like these with fighters, is Haymon creating a situation where fighters don't feel the need to give it their all because they know they'll fight again and get paid either way? Does it remove a certain urgency & drive from the fighter, and actually effect how a fight will play out?


    We saw on the same night, Herrera received 2 cuts over both eyes. One of those cuts seemed to be far worse than Collazo's cut, much more blood was gushing out, his eyelid was hanging off his face but Herrera didn't show any real signs of quitting.

    When we peel back the layers of this I think Herrera was in the moment and knew that his fight with Lundy dictated his future while Collazo just wasn't motivated to continue fighting because of the contractual promise & the guarantee of future riches regardless whether he won or lost against Thurman.

    A difference caused by the Al Haymon effect? When you guarantee boxers fights and money, especially veterans like Collazo, they don't feel the need to give it their all anymore, they just feel like they need to make an appearance.

    Written by FlatLine as a Boxing Scene exclusive
    Last edited by FlatLine; 07-14-2015, 02:32 AM.

    #2
    He knows that winning will lead to a Mattyhsse fight. I honestly CANT see him possibly winning the fight, but he's earned it. I favour him over anybody at 140 outside of Lucas honestly.

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      #3
      Luis Collazo is Puerto Rican and Mauricio Herrera is Mexican. That explains everything. End thread.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Malgus View Post
        Luis Collazo is Puerto Rican and Mauricio Herrera is Mexican. That explains everything. End thread.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Malgus View Post
          Luis Collazo is Puerto Rican and Mauricio Herrera is Mexican. That explains everything. End thread.
          Word up bro! Mexicans never quit! Especially not on no damn stool the way Collazo did.

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            #6
            The 'Haymon Effect', eh? Great theory, Bro.

            Now please explain how 'the Haymon Effect' works when non Haymon fighters like Geale and Willie Monroe Jr do the EXACT SAME THING and also quit in fights on HBO just a few weeks before.

            Thank you in advance.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Bigg Rigg View Post
              Word up bro! Mexicans never quit! Especially not on no damn stool the way Collazo did.
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                #8
                Originally posted by Malgus View Post
                Luis Collazo is Puerto Rican and Mauricio Herrera is Mexican. That explains everything. End thread.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sweet Jones View Post
                  The 'Haymon Effect', eh? Great theory, Bro.

                  Now please explain how 'the Haymon Effect' works when non Haymon fighters like Geale and Willie Monroe Jr do the EXACT SAME THING and also quit in fights on HBO just a few weeks before.

                  Thank you in advance.
                  No. Thank you. Good examples here to demonstrate my point further. Both Geale and Willie Monroe Jr sustained actual knockdowns against them and were visibly in poor condition. Geale got knocked down twice, Monroe Jr 3 times. Those two are actually good examples of when fighters are justified in not wanting to continue. These situations do happen.

                  Now Collazo didn't get knocked down a singe time, and in fact he landed the best punch of the night and nearly knocked Thurman down. He just felt that he had a slight injury, knew that he was destined to be paid if he was able to fight again, so he just jumped to a conclusion that its better to not fight and risk further injury because that would just delay his next payday.

                  Thanks for providing two examples to further emphasize, drive home, solidify and cement my original point, infusing more certainty, veracity and validation in the excellent points I had previously espoused. The truth most certainly enjoys company, I can tell you.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by FlatLine View Post
                    No. Thank you. Good examples here to demonstrate my point further. Both Geale and Willie Monroe Jr sustained actual knockdowns against them and were visibly in poor condition. Geale got knocked down twice, Monroe Jr 3 times. Those two are actually good examples of when fighters are justified in not wanting to continue. These situations do happen.

                    Now Collazo didn't get knocked down a singe time, and in fact he landed the best punch of the night and nearly knocked Thurman down. He just felt that he had a slight injury, knew that he was destined to be paid if he was able to fight again, so he just jumped to a conclusion that its better to not fight and risk further injury because that would just delay his next payday.

                    Thanks for providing two examples to further emphasize, drive home, solidify and cement my original point, infusing more certainty, veracity and validation in the excellent points I had previously espoused. The truth most certainly enjoys company, I can tell you.
                    Do you actually know clooazo has a multi fight deal or are you assuming it?

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