"Why do Floyd fans hate GGG so much?" Where does this logic come from?

[HeroBando]

Is asking Golovkin to step it up and quit waiting around on guys hating on him? Even thinking he is a bit over rated isn't hating, how many people say he doesn't have any talent maybe 10, there are always 10 mother ****ers who will say the sky is red just because.

I see a lot of hating on his fans who say all kinds of hypocritical ****, like wanting other fighters to move up to challenge GGG whole saying Golovkin doesn't have to do **** to really push himself. I still don't get why dude gets a pass when no other fighter on here gets a pass like that, with that sort of talent level.


Golovkin is a good fighter, I want to find out how good and you can't just blame opposition (even if you can put some, a lot, a bit on that aspect) when someone is not willing to go out and really seek that opposition out.

Who is that? Not Ggg who sent offers to all top ten middles, signed to fight Chavez, offered to fight Froch in the UK. Why make these overlong posts if you got nothing to say?

[The Gambler1981]

Who is that? Not Ggg who sent offers to all top ten middles, signed to fight Chavez, offered to fight Froch in the UK. Why make these overlong posts if you got nothing to say?

I hear this all the time, what does that even mean? Sending out offers ain't ****.

Getting something in boxing requires doing things you don't really want to do, I haven't seen anything like those steps from that team. You have to force situations, not be content.

Don't respond to me if you ain't got nothing to say, but some parakeet stuff~

[jdp28tx]

As soon as i read the first paragraph i had a feeling you would sneak Chavez as an example in there.

How you can criticise Mayweather for not fighting a great fighter in the prime and then mention Chavez beating Taylor is beyond me.

Did Taylor have talent to be great? Yes. Did he achieve greatness? Clearly not. Is he even hall of fame? doubtful.

The best u can do is nit pick one fight with one fighter. That is the best u can do. That is funny. And what is pathetic is you act as if you got a slam dunk. What I do see is you do not criticize any other points I have made. The one point you criticize ( and criticized is spelled with a z) is Taylor vs Chavez. That is it? Out of the whole post that is the only thing u can argue against and it is not even a well laid out argument. How does mentioning Chavez fighting Taylor negate the fact that Mayweather has not fought any great fighters in their prime?? I will tell you, it does not negate that fact. I can also counter and say Taylor was a gold medalist, he was a legit 140lb champ at the prime of his career and most people thought he would go on to greatness and he had the skills and potential to do just that, but Chavez ruined him in that fight. Even though Chavez beat him so badly he still went on to win another title in another division (welterweight). He had the guts to dare to be great by fighting Chavez and then taking on a much bigger, stronger Terry Norris. No way would Floyd take such a risk and Norris would of probably butchered Floyd. My point is Taylor was at his peak in skills, he had great skills, fastest fighter I have ever seen and his amateur pedigree (winner of gold medal unlike Floyd who only won a bronze) was 2nd to none. He had won a major title in his 21st fight against a very good Buddy McGirt.

BTW how can I not mention Chavez he is considered one of the greatest fighters in boxing history. He is usually ranked in the top 15-20 fighters of all time. And there is 0 argument about Chavez being an ATG unlike your hero Floyd, who most people do not even rank him in the top 50 of all time. If u like I can mention Chavez vs Whitaker, who was in his prime when they fought. And the point of my post was not favoritism for a certain fighter, it does not matter who won. The point is 2 fighters in their prime daring to be great and not making any excuses as to why they refuse to fight each other. BTW Chavez 87-0 is far more impressive and superior to Mayweather's 48-0. Mayweather had to go about his career in the way I described in my previous post in order to get to 48-0, Chavez did not, he took on all comers and he did not pitty-pat and run his way to victory he attacked and took the hearts of his opponents.

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Money hasn't been a good excuse for a while. Golovkin's opponents were getting paid more than Quillin when Quillin was claiming there was no money in it. "No money in it" has mostly meant "I know I'm going to get destroyed and so I'm going to ask for a ridiculous amount and kill any chance of getting the fight."

Quillin is irrelevant now. The draw with Lee puts him on the back burner for a while.

I'm thinking more about guys like Froch. Froch vs GGG would be an excellent fight and if all Froch wants is a big payday then give it to him.

[IMDAZED]

Who is that? Not Ggg who sent offers to all top ten middles, signed to fight Chavez, offered to fight Froch in the UK. Why make these overlong posts if you got nothing to say?

He said plenty. Perhaps not what you wanted to hear.

What GGG is going through isn't some new phenomenon. Look, maybe he becomes like Hopkins, sticking around and finally getting that big fight at 36. If he were to do that and win impressively, all must rise and applaud.

But as of now, it doesn't seem like Alvarez (the closest to the Tito analogy) is interested in the fight. Tito was trying to fight Roy Jones. Huge difference from what Team Alvarez is saying.

So what's it going to be? I'd love to see GGG move up, fight a 168lb contender than perhaps Ward. What's so bad about that fight? Better than Monroe, if you ask me. I must not be a boxing fan.

[IMDAZED]

The best u can do is nit pick one fight with one fighter. That is the best u can do. That is funny. And what is pathetic is you act as if you got a slam dunk. What I do see is you do not criticize any other points I have made. The one point you criticize ( and criticized is spelled with a z) is Taylor vs Chavez. That is it? Out of the whole post that is the only thing u can argue against and it is not even a well laid out argument. How does mentioning Chavez fighting Taylor negate the fact that Mayweather has not fought any great fighters in their prime?? I will tell you, it does not negate that fact. I can also counter and say Taylor was a gold medalist, he was a legit 140lb champ at the prime of his career and most people thought he would go on to greatness and he had the skills and potential to do just that, but Chavez ruined him in that fight. Even though Chavez beat him so badly he still went on to win another title in another division (welterweight). He had the guts to dare to be great by fighting Chavez and then taking on a much bigger, stronger Terry Norris. No way would Floyd take such a risk and Norris would of probably butchered Floyd. My point is Taylor was at his peak in skills, he had great skills, fastest fighter I have ever seen and his amateur pedigree (winner of gold medal unlike Floyd who only won a bronze) was 2nd to none. He had won a major title in his 21st fight against a very good Buddy McGirt.

BTW how can I not mention Chavez he is considered one of the greatest fighters in boxing history. He is usually ranked in the top 15-20 fighters of all time. And there is 0 argument about Chavez being an ATG unlike your hero Floyd, who most people do not even rank him in the top 50 of all time. If u like I can mention Chavez vs Whitaker, who was in his prime when they fought. And the point of my post was not favoritism for a certain fighter, it does not matter who won. The point is 2 fighters in their prime daring to be great and not making any excuses as to why they refuse to fight each other. BTW Chavez 87-0 is far more impressive and superior to Mayweather's 48-0. Mayweather had to go about his career in the way I described above in order to get to 48-0, Chavez did not, he took on all comers and he did not pitty-pat and run his way to victory he attacked and took the hearts of his opponents.

That's ridiculous. Mayweather fought Hernandez at 21 and also fought an extremely dangerous and undefeated Diego Corrales in his prime. And he moved up to fight the #1 lightweight of that time and perhaps of that era. Mayweather is 38. Stop using his style at the latter stage of his career (even though he's still schooling elite fighters) as some reason to diminish his accomplishments. Mayweather is significantly greater than Chavez, a fighter who as a great fan of his, I truly respect.

[Caught Square]

The best u can do is nit pick one fight with one fighter. That is the best u can do. That is funny. And what is pathetic is you act as if you got a slam dunk. What I do see is you do not criticize any other points I have made. The one point you criticize ( and criticized is spelled with a z) is Taylor vs Chavez. That is it? Out of the whole post that is the only thing u can argue against and it is not even a well laid out argument. Well, I can counter and say Taylor was a gold medalist, he was a legit 140lb champ at the prime of his career and most people thought he would go on to greatness and he had the skills and potential to do just that, but Chavez ruined him in that fight. Even though Chavez beat him so badly he still went on to win another title in another division (welterweight). He had the guts to dare to be great by fighting Chavez and then taking on a much bigger, stronger Terry Norris. No way would Floyd take such a risk and Norris would of probably butchered Floyd. My point is Taylor was at his peak in skills, he had great skills, fastest fighter I have ever seen and his amateur pedigree (winner of gold medal unlike Floyd who only won a bronze) was 2nd to none. He had won a major title in his 21st fight against a very good Buddy McGirt.

BTW how can I not mention Chavez he is considered one of the greatest fighters in boxing history. He is usually ranked in the top 15-20 fighters of all time. And there is 0 argument about Chavez being an ATG unlike your hero Floyd, who most people do not even rank him in the top 50 of all time. If u like I can mention Chavez vs Whitaker, who was in his prime when they fought. And the point of my post was not favoritism for a certain fighter, it does not matter who won. The point is 2 fighters in their prime daring to be great and not making any excuses as to why they refuse to fight each other. BTW Chavez 87-0 is far more impressive and superior to Mayweather's 48-0. Mayweather had to go about his career in the way I described above in order to get to 48-0, Chavez did not, he took on all comers and he did not pitty-pat and run his way to victory he attacked and took the hearts of his opponents.

LOL it's actually 'criticised' in the UK but nice try at correcting my spelling though

Honestly the reason i only picked out Chavez-Taylor and nothing else is because that was the main thing that stuck out. I noticed you posted this in another thread, probably should have replied there instead. But since you took the time to reply...

Long story short to your points:

- Mentioning his gold medal or 'amateur pedigree' don't make him any greater as a pro and it's hard pressed to even consider Taylor hall of fame let alone ATG despite his talent.
- Most people do rank Floyd top 50 all time, i don't know what lists you look at.
- Feel free to mention Whitaker, Chavez was schooled in that fight and got a gift draw .

-87-0... first 42 fights were nobodies ( i understand due to his limited amateur background but doesn't change the fact they were nobodies) and he beat ONE hall of famer during those 87 fights, so superior.

[jdp28tx]

As soon as i read the first paragraph i had a feeling you would sneak Chavez as an example in there.

How you can criticise Mayweather for not fighting a great fighter in the prime and then mention Chavez beating Taylor is beyond me.

Did Taylor have talent to be great? Yes. Did he achieve greatness? Clearly not. Is he even hall of fame? doubtful.

I would like u to inform me when Chavez vs Whitaker took place did either fighter complain to the commission about each others gloves. Did either man try and get the others gloves ruled illegal? Did Roy Jones do that when he fought James Toney? Did Ali do that when he fought Frasier? Did Leonard do that when he fought Hearns? Did any of the fighters and fights I mention request ridiculous drug testing protocols? Did any of the fighters I mentioned use unsubstantiated rumors (started by themselves)about drugs in order to avoid fighting each other or postpone their respective fights for 7 yrs? Did any of the fighters I mentioned pay for a mole to go into each others training camp and have them report back? Did any of the fighters whine about the other guy's promoter and use it as an excuse to not fight one another? I can keep going if you like? However, I would like you to answer the questions presented.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

No idea why those who do hate on him do but im a floyd fan and enjoy ggg fights

[jdp28tx]

LOL it's actually 'criticised' in the UK but nice try at correcting my spelling though

Honestly the reason i only picked out Chavez-Taylor and nothing else is because that was the main thing that stuck out. I noticed you posted this in another thread, probably should have replied there instead. But since you took the time to reply...

Long story short to your points:

- Mentioning his gold medal or 'amateur pedigree' don't make him any greater as a pro and it's hard pressed to even consider Taylor hall of fame let alone ATG despite his talent.
- Most people do rank Floyd top 50 all time, i don't know what lists you look at.
- Feel free to mention Whitaker, Chavez was schooled in that fight and got a gift draw .

-87-0... first 42 fights were nobodies ( i understand due to his limited amateur background but doesn't change the fact they were nobodies) and he beat ONE hall of famer during those 87 fights, so superior.

Again u misdirect because u cannot argue my points. You talk about the same thing over and over, but since you have no other way to argue you purposely make points that I am not asserting. You argue with yourself because I have told u over and over it is not about who won. Chavez vs Whitaker were 2 greats fighting each other when they were still young. That is the point. Not the fact that Whitaker got cheated out of a win. The point is they did not whine and make excuses as to why they would not fight each other. They wanted to fight each other despite your obliviousness to it all. That is my point. You want to argue about things I am not arguing nor am I asserting. You are making up things in your own head and then counter arguing yourself.

You purposely make his about Chavez, when my post was not about him. I mentioned a dozen other fighters and the circumstances when they fought and who they fought. You want to focus on one fighter I mentioned because u cannot argue the merits of my post. You have some ridiculous belief that if u say ****ty things about Chavez it will upset me or something. But, this is not about one fighter,if you want to continue to discuss an aspect I am not arguing and an aspect u are making up in order to have an argument against yourself then go ahead. And I guess u think your use of smiley face emoticons makes your argument stronger. People who use smiley face emoticons are either children, have the mental capacity of a child due to mental ******ation,or they are just plain morons. My guess is your are the rare person that meets all 3.
But since u refuse to argue or counter the numerous points I have made discussing Ali, Leonard, Bowe, Toney, Holyfield, Roy Jones, etc. Then it is obvious I won the day.