Comments Thread For: Manny Pacquiao Skips Sparring After More PED Testing

[Swarmfan]

I think that it should be noted that a "vial" is not a unit of measurement, that is to say that there are vials that hold different volumes of liquid. According to the USADA website the sample size is less than a tablespoon, that is less than 15 milliliters.

During the blood collection process, a number of vacutainer tubes of blood could be drawn, but keep in mind, less than one tablespoon of blood will be drawn. After the relevant vacutainer tubes are filled with blood, the BCO will label each tube with the corresponding sample code number for the security bottles, confirming with the athlete that each tube was labeled appropriately.

usada.org/testing/sample-collection-process/blood/#tab-

4 vials of blood could easily be 4 vials containing a little under 4 milliliters each. As you can see from this medical supply website vacutainer blood collection tubes have a wide range of capacities (from 2ml up to 10ml on this particular page)

bd.com/vacutainer/products/venous/ordering_info_tubes.asp#hema_edta_plastic

The number of vials in and of itself does not indicate how much actual material was taken. Moreover multiple containers of blood being taken is not out of line with USADA protocols or other types of blood testing.

Given these facts I believe that there is no indication that anything unusual happened here. Its difficult for me to imagine that pac is that sensitive to such a small amount of blood loss as a nosebleed or cut in fight would cause him to lose at least as much if not many times more blood than this.

[tiliheels]

I think that it should be noted that a "vial" is not a unit of measurement, that is to say that there are vials that hold different volumes of liquid. According to the USADA website the sample size is less than a tablespoon, that is less than 15 milliliters.



usada.org/testing/sample-collection-process/blood/#tab-

4 vials of blood could easily be 4 vials containing a little under 4 milliliters each. As you can see from this medical supply website vacutainer blood collection tubes have a wide range of capacities (from 2ml up to 10ml on this particular page)

bd.com/vacutainer/products/venous/ordering_info_tubes.asp#hema_edta_plastic

The number of vials in and of itself does not indicate how much actual material was taken. Moreover multiple containers of blood being taken is not out of line with USADA protocols or other types of blood testing.

Given these facts I believe that there is no indication that anything unusual happened here. Its difficult for me to imagine that pac is that sensitive to such a small amount of blood loss as a nosebleed or cut in fight would cause him to lose at least as much if not many times more blood than this.

also i see it like this
key words: no interviews
key words: reporter
HOW DO U GET A STORY WITH NO INTERVIEWS??? SOUNDS LIKE WILD CARD GOT THE EXCUSE MAKER ON PAY ROLL, BUT COULDNT FOOL ME BC I'M NO DUMBA$$

also usada and vada have both conducted test on camera...each blood an urine test happned with the 2 workders and the fighter only..when the test is done the samples are stored and packed away....NO ONE SEEN ANY VIALS!!!

this reporter needs non bias corroboration on this story or he's freddie's excuse maker for all i'm concerned

ans csb or w/e is has always covered a lot on pac so i wouldnt doubt it...just look at the facts before u get to caught up in 4 vials

[Phenom]

Damn now Manny is going to weak for like 5 days

[Left Hook Tua]

Pac said that he didn't like needles but wasn't there something he also said about giving blood that made him feel weak? I have got to say that at least Manny seems truthful in hindsight. Hope they don't have to many more test if that's the case. I'd hate for there to be any excuses on either side come May 2nd.

it comes from morales 1.

right before the morales fight they screwed up his physical and had to redo it fight week. including blood tests.

he felt weak/sick afterwards. this was 4-5 years BEFORE the floyd/osdt talk.

it's probably just in his head. but dude is superstitious and a little ocd. he still eats at that cheap thai restaurant in hollywood after gym. been doing that 15 yrs since back when he was poor.

it wasn't about scared of needles. it was giving blood.

[brickcityboxing]

If any of you all have ever had blood drawn from you for testing you have to know that the number of vials means absolutely nothing in comparison to the actual amount of blood drawn. For instance, I have to have my blood drawn every 3 months for diabetes testing. The phlebotomist may use anywhere between 4 and six vials however my blood may only take up 25% or less of the available space in the vial. If you were to add all of the blood in the numerous vials together you may end up with one full vial of blood. No where near enough to make anybody weak or drained, but just enough to complete the various test being ordered.
You guys are making it sound like USADA has Manny donating blood where they would be extracting a pint at a time. No matter how anyone tries to spin it, that is not happening.

You got da sugar?

[Robbie Barrett]

it comes from morales 1.

right before the morales fight they screwed up his physical and had to redo it fight week. including blood tests.

he felt weak/sick afterwards. this was 4-5 years BEFORE the floyd/osdt talk.

it's probably just in his head. but dude is superstitious and a little ocd. he still eats at that cheap thai restaurant in hollywood after gym. been doing that 15 yrs since back when he was poor.

it wasn't about scared of needles. it was giving blood.

For Morales 1 they took blood while he was dehydrating 10+ lbs to make weight. He couldn't eat or drink for days leading up to the fight.

[brickcityboxing]

This is pathetic. Fighters don't spar everyday.

Well if he was scheduled to spar yesterday and didn't then one would assume he'd be sparring the very next day, no? I mean I'm sure Freddie knows exactly how many rounds of sparring he wants to get in down to the week if he missed his sparring in the middle of the week he's going to have to make it up at some point (it's Friday) ... They aren't going to just add that on to next weeks work, he needs to get a certain amount of work in... in the ring... Roadwork doesn't replace sparring

[Mayabang]

good! This news should be a relief for those concerned about Pac overtraining.

[Robbie Barrett]

Well if he was scheduled to spar yesterday and didn't then one would assume he'd be sparring the very next day, no? I mean I'm sure Freddie knows exactly how many rounds of sparring he wants to get in down to the week if he missed his sparring in the middle of the week he's going to have to make it up at some point (it's Friday) ... They aren't going to just add that on to next weeks work, he needs to get a certain amount of work in... in the ring... Roadwork doesn't replace sparring

We don't know what his schedule is and you don't know how many rounds Freddie wants him to spar.

[ThePrince]

all the tears already. Manny being blood drained doe. Floyd 'dracula' mayweather

Floyd after USADA brought him his sweet sweet nectar: