could golovkin go down as "the best ever"?

[richardt]

Not in my book. To be a great, I think a fighter has to beat at least one great while they are close to their prime. If Ricardo Lopez had made 10 more defenses, he still wouldn't be great in my opinion because all he had to do was eat one pancake and fight Carbahal or Chiquito Gonzalez and instead decided to fight 10-1 Thai fighters and two guys other guys that were no where near greats. GGG would need to clean out 160-168 to be among the greats and I don't see that. He will win some and lose some, like almost all top fighters. Greatness is rare. Lets not crown him or compare him to greats unless or until he can do that. Check back in 5 years. Till then, the jury is still out.

[bklynboy]

Taylor, Pavlik and Martinez ALL have better resumes than the Triple Duck...

I think GGG is about even with them. We can debate that if you want but the point of the original post (even if I didn't make it very clear) was that GGG has done nothing to be even be considered an all-time fighter. He's barely the best of the last few years.

He's not even close to being a HOF fighter. If he cleans out the middleweight division AND cleans out the Super Middleweight division in the next 2-3 years (which is highly unlikely) then he would be borderline HOF and at that point we can start talking about where he ranks in the all-time standings if he does x.

As it is GGG is fun to watch. I think he is the best middleweight out there today. But as far all-time rankings. Nah. Not even close.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Look at where just about everybody in the top 50 was accomplishment-wise at 32. They were already HoF locks. If Golovkin retired now (at 32) is he even a hall of famer?

Hall of Famer? He isn't even the best middleweight of the last 3 years.

[El-blanco]

Hall of Famer? He isn't even the best middleweight of the last 3 years.

He fights about four times a year, hell be at 40 fights in no time. If a few of those are against some top guys he has a chance.

[Sweet Pea 50]

I think it's going to be tough for him to be ever considered in the discussion. Because in my mind, there really isn't anybody at 160 right now to push him. So pardon my hyperbole, but for him to start entering discussions, he would need victories over Froch and Ward at '68, and then a victory over a Kovalev/Stevenson winner in the future at '75, with some cannon fodder at both weight divisions along the way.

And I don't see all those falling in line, whether it be because of defeat, or the fights themselves don't come to fruition.

Just my two pennies.

[Bardock]

Not in my book. To be a great, I think a fighter has to beat at least one great while they are close to their prime. If Ricardo Lopez had made 10 more defenses, he still wouldn't be great in my opinion because all he had to do was eat one pancake and fight Carbahal or Chiquito Gonzalez and instead decided to fight 10-1 Thai fighters and two guys other guys that were no where near greats. GGG would need to clean out 160-168 to be among the greats and I don't see that. He will win some and lose some, like almost all top fighters. Greatness is rare. Lets not crown him or compare him to greats unless or until he can do that. Check back in 5 years. Till then, the jury is still out.

Blatant hater.

[CANELOLUJAH]

only time will tell, but looking at the lanscape of his potential division IMO he doesnt have a chance to achieve that.

He probably is but you have to win the fights that seal it, and not sure those poeple exist in his potential division that will let me achieve that.

[VatoMulatto]

No way. GGG is already 33 years old. Not enough time and not enough quality opponents for him to take him to that level.

A better question: Do you think this version of GGG is good enough to hang with the best fighters of all time?

[Fantasiabruja]

According to a few well intention fans of his around here he already is, all he needs is for the other title holders in his division to hand over the belts.