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Enough is Enough Rigo, Ward and GGG Need to Move Up or Shut Up

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    #21
    I don't agree that they have to move up but I do agree that they should all shut up.

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      #22
      Originally posted by El-blanco View Post
      Rigo would be at a major size disadvantage at 126, I don't think it's even fair. The other two I agree.


      Loma vs Rigo...make it happen

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        #23
        Ward cleared his division out a long time ago, he should move up.

        GGG and Rigo still have unfinished business in their weight classes.

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          #24
          Do most people not think Ward-Kovalev is a much more interesting fight than Ward-Golovkin?

          I'm not at all convinced Golovkin can pose a serious threat to Ward yet. I might be underestimating him, but I'd have to see him take a real scalp at 168 before I could really believe it.

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            #25
            so many wrongs

            1). You lumped different cases together. It is not Rigo's or GGG's fault that they other guys won't fight them. Enough is enough, man up and take the challenge.

            2). Rigo for all we know would be in his 3rd or 4th division. We didn't see him rise. Imagine we met Floyd in his early 30s settled into the light WW or something like that.

            3). Say Rigo and GGG move up. Say no one fights them. Were does it stop? Were they're like Gamboa fighting way out of their division? Gamboa didn't lose to TC because he was the lesser fighter, he was too dman small against TC coming in at 150+.

            4) Ward is a different case. He cleaned up his division and there's no doubt he can jump up in weight.

            5) In Rigo's case you're punishing him for doing it right. He's fighting at the weight he should be fighting. At 126 there will be drainers who are trying to cherry pick small guys. They're the ones in the wrong, not Rigo.

            6) Overall, I am not blaming them. I am blaming the ******* who won't fight them unless they have a major weight advantage. We have classes. Respect them

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              #26
              Originally posted by Dr Rumack View Post
              Do most people not think Ward-Kovalev is a much more interesting fight than Ward-Golovkin?
              Fully agree here. Why doesn't Ward feel the heat to move up? He is DONE at 168 other than waiting for guys to come up. And his body frame will let him move up.

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                #27
                Originally posted by ***1048;ATAS View Post
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                We are in a time in boxing where many of the weight classes are really stretched thin, only a couple big names here and there. It's unfortunate, but this is the result of both the creation of all these weight classes and the decline in popularity of the sport. It's just the way it is.
                That's the truth, especially at the the lower weights. They need to make make jr fly 108-115 and fly weight 115-122. Most of the guys down there move around those divisions anyway, theres no point of dividing all these guys by 3 pounds especially when they're all similar sizes. The real jump in size comes after 22

                Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI- View Post
                Loma vs Rigo...make it happen
                Lol in our dreams.

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                  #28
                  I get why some say to move up, really have no problem with it. But Floyd and Pac is a bad example. Pac and Floyd started as teens and there bodies naturally matured. GGG, Rigo and Ward are in there 30's where there at there limit or at least one wight class away from there limit.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by RetroSpeed05 View Post
                    I get why some say to move up, really have no problem with it. But Floyd and Pac is a bad example. Pac and Floyd started as teens and there bodies naturally matured. GGG, Rigo and Ward are in there 30's where there at there limit or at least one wight class away from there limit.
                    yeah. That's a point many seem to miss.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by JaguaresMx View Post
                      so many wrongs

                      1). You lumped different cases together. It is not Rigo's or GGG's fault that they other guys won't fight them. Enough is enough, man up and take the challenge.

                      2). Rigo for all we know would be in his 3rd or 4th division. We didn't see him rise. Imagine we met Floyd in his early 30s settled into the light WW or something like that.

                      3). Say Rigo and GGG move up. Say no one fights them. Were does it stop? Were they're like Gamboa fighting way out of their division? Gamboa didn't lose to TC because he was the lesser fighter, he was too dman small against TC coming in at 150+.

                      4) Ward is a different case. He cleaned up his division and there's no doubt he can jump up in weight.

                      5) In Rigo's case you're punishing him for doing it right. He's fighting at the weight he should be fighting. At 126 there will be drainers who are trying to cherry pick small guys. They're the ones in the wrong, not Rigo.

                      6) Overall, I am not blaming them. I am blaming the ******* who won't fight them unless they have a major weight advantage. We have classes. Respect them
                      Rigo is a great fighter and one of my favorites. But his team demands a lot of money and their intent is to turn him into a star. That's not going to happen at 122. We will be watching YouTube replays of his fights for the rest of his career. People bring up Walters but he's the biggest fighter at 126. The other guys rehydrate in the 133-135 range.

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