Official Floyd Mayweather- Manny Pacquiao Postfight aftermath discussion

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Nailed it!

Total annihilation lol

Too much evidence and overwhelming logic to your statement buddy. Flowmos might commit harakiri after hearing all that lol

That's the nail in the coffin! Dang! Floyd fought a one armed Pac and looked silly running from him. Vagina much?? Yep! Haha

And yet these overwhelming evidence ain't proof to these flowmos lol. Logic and reasoning don't exist in their world, but what you've written here can be heard from those that matters buddy. Cheers!

Thanks Spoon!

For some Floyd fans, its no use. Even if you show them documents, videos, they still wouldn't believe. As proof, we show them rounds where the judges had it wrong or that the rounds were not clearly a Floyd round as Floyd fans stated. Still, Floyd fans do not want to see or believe what you show them. Some will respond with words such as "trickery" even though there was none.

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Even Roach said he couldn't tell how badly Pacquiao was injured.

The doctor can and did. He was told to take about a month to rest and then hopefully he can resume training/sparring.

For example, years ago I had a fractured my hand hours before a playoff game. I knew it but nobody else did. For my game, I am required to use my hands. I even scored a great goal that had lots of power in it. Doctor confirmed what I thought and told me to rest and avoid activity because I can make things worse. He put a brace to mobilize the hand. I told my coach about it on the phone and that I will skip the next game. He couldn't believe me because of the way I played and that great goal. He was frustrated because it was a playoff game ..... but the doctor confirmed that my hand was fractured. So I was definitely not lying and like I said, nobody had any idea including my coach.

[Robbie Barrett]

The doctor can and did. He was told to take about a month to rest and then hopefully he can resume training/sparring.

For example, years ago I had a fractured my hand hours before a playoff game. I knew it but nobody else did. For my game, I am required to use my hands. I even scored a great goal that had lots of power in it. Doctor told me to rest and avoid activity because I can make things worse. He put a brace to mobilize the hand. I told my coach about it on the phone and that I will skip the next game. He couldn't believe me because of the way I played and that great goal ..... but the doctor confirmed that my hand was fractured. So I was definitely not lying and like I said, nobody had any idea including my coach.

If his own trainer couldn't tell then it didn't make one bit of difference. Roach would have known if the injury affected him so much.

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If his own trainer couldn't tell then it didn't make one bit of difference. Roach would have known if the injury affected him so much.

Nice try. So they took time off to rest and stopped sparring for the biggest fight of their career because what again?

[Robbie Barrett]

Nice try. So they took time off to rest and stopped sparring for the biggest fight of their career because what again?

He's had the injury since 2009 according to Pacquiao.
Roach said it was fine before the fight.
His own doctors cleared him to fight.

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He's had the injury since 2009 according to Pacquiao.
Roach said it was fine before the fight.
His own doctors cleared him to fight.

Nice try.
"Pacquiao revealed that he injured his shoulder three weeks before the fight, and was initially advised by his doctor to rest for 30 to 40 days."


"ElAttrache, is a well-known sports surgeon, said that Pacquiao was able to get through the 12 rounds against Mayweather because he "modulated his approach. He moderated what he did with his right hand. His punch count was less than it has been. He did alter the way he fought to get through the fight with the injury. He is in pain.""

[Robbie Barrett]

Nice try.
"Pacquiao revealed that he injured his shoulder three weeks before the fight, and was initially advised by his doctor to rest for 30 to 40 days."


"ElAttrache, is a well-known sports surgeon, said that Pacquiao was able to get through the 12 rounds against Mayweather because he "modulated his approach. He moderated what he did with his right hand. His punch count was less than it has been. He did alter the way he fought to get through the fight with the injury. He is in pain.""

His trainer couldn't tell. He changed how he fought because he was fighting Mayweather everyone changes. He used the old injury to try and get his entire body numbed for the fight, when that didn't work it became his excuse for losing in embarrassing fashion.

[radioraheem]

Funny stuff. All these years, I didn't see any paper work of Floyd's injury. Only Floyd saying it. Yet Floyd and his fans used that in every Castillo thread. Where were you then? Did you post that it didn't happen because there was no MRI? No Paperwork?

You are so wrong. From what I posted, the sparring partner can be used as a witness. Just to say that it is NOT hearsay. He knew first hand that Manny's shoulder was messed up. Ever watch cases where with circumstantial evidence they put someone away for life? Well, Manny has (more than that) doctors, sparring partners saying it was definitely injured. Others like the commission who were aware of it prior to the fight. USADA knew about the injury. Again, for a Floyd fan, it was all coincidence. Like lightening striking and hitting you twice.

I gave you the chance but you on the other hand have no evidence to back up your statements. NOTHING! No witness, no proof that it was all a lie.

If there is no concrete evidence for Floyd's injury as well, then there is no concrete evidence. The only thing people can rely on his hearsay and maybe things seen or heard during the fight. Bringing up a decade old fight does not excuse the fact that there is no concrete evidence for Pacquiao's injury before the fight.

The sparring partner can be used as a witness, but it is not good evidence without concrete evidence in the form of official documentation. And there is a conflict of interest in that the sparring partner was working for Team Pacquiao and being paid by them. That is why official documentation is so much more important and is the only thing that has relevance.

Finally, USADA did not know about the injury. And they went as far as saying they had no documentation.

Arum had claimed that he was under the impression that USADA, the company conducting the random drug testing protocol on both fighters, had informed the NSAC. USADA denied knowledge of the injury.

Quoted from a BoxingScene article. What part of USADA denying knowledge of the injury do you NOT understand?

[Spoon23]

First of all, you agreed that Manny was injured in the fight. So it really does not matter if you don't believe there was an injury beforehand.

but just to say

You have yet to show any evidence that Manny was not injured before the fight. All you have is a sparring partner that was not aware but nobody saying that Manny was not hurt and that it was all a lie. Big, big difference! You can't even get a quote from the commissions nor USADA or anyone saying that they do not believe that Manny was injured.

On the other hand, there are quotes of the commissions being aware of the injury prior to the fight(spoke to Manny's team and doctors), USADA knew about the medication and the injury(investigated and spoke to Manny's doctors twice), sparring partners, doctors, yet you still trying to say that there was nothing. Thanks for the laugh. For you it was all coincidence that there was all that talk beforehand and later Manny having surgery to the same right shoulder.

Also, a sparring partner saying what was said below is good evidence and not considered hearsay. Just because another sparring partner didn't know about it doesn't mean that others didn't. That's like saying that because 2 judges didn't see a punch land that the 3rd judge saw then it didn't land.

"I just want to fill everyone in on all the rumors! We were asked not to mention anything to anyone but Yes Manny got hurt during this camp with his right shoulder and it was messed up pretty bad! So bad his sparring partners including myself were asked to go home a few weeks out before the actual fight, which means a lot of work he could have put in for this fight was brought to a halt due to the fact that he could not spar really anymore and didnt wanna mess it up more than he already had..........

..... If everyone knew what I knew you would be loved even more than how you are now! Thank you again for the experience and making me apart of this historic event memories I will cherish forever! No excuses at all being made the injury was real!" - Dashon Johnson

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This right here are overwhelming evidence. Who ever denies any of this does not exist is a dumbazz. This points you wrote cannot be desputed. Too much evidence to collaborate Pac's injury. Even if Nsac was washing their hands they didn't know about it, Still a paper trail of events before and after proves it.

It's how these flowtards can't see logic and reasoning from all the facts already presented. They are after all blind worshipers lol For any sane person, what you have wrote make so much sense it can't be disputed. And even reading between the lines, it's too obvious that if you brought it to court, pac will surely win. What you wrote was a thing of beauty. If who you're writing to has common sense. Which flowmos don't, they will surely say you got that right.

You don't need to convince those flowtards, it's a waste of your time and intelligence. As I've said those that matters have read it and concluded, PAc did fight handicapped and performed above and beyond a one armed man could.

[Spoon23]

Floyd Mayweather turned a great match up into a ****ing farce. He fought so damn defensively that both men combined for a total of 250 or so punches connected-THAT'S A ****ING TRAVESTY BY ANYONE'S STANDARDS FOR A PROFESSIONAL PRIZE FIGHT. You won't hear a single ****ing word from Stephen A Smith, Paulie Malinaggi, or any of the other boxers who won't call Mayweather out for fear of loosing influence in the game. A ****ing blind man can see Floyd Mayweather should have been penalized for excessive holding and other bull****, because you can bet your ass a non-named fighter would have been.

It's very obvious when you watch the fight that Mayweather was missing badly, but the judges were counting them. One round they had Mayweather landing 34 punches. I counted 6. Manny landed 19. Which was about right. The punch Stat guy counting Mayweathers punches was giving him credit for punches that missed. Manny definitely won. You can't win a fight by running and holding and landing fewer punches. Except in Las Vegas. Mayweather is now 47-1 by most everyone's standard.

Still manny with only one hand, landed more of the harder effective punches. Floyd cant even win clearly or dominate against a one armed injured smaller. That's just a tribute to how good pac was. Pac with 2 hands will be a nightmare scenario for FLoyd. He can't handle a 1 handed pac what more if it was a healthy pac? This fight even impressed more boxing fans for PAc's grit and heart. Landing the more telling blows the whole fight.

If you beat a one armed man who landed more significant punches on you. Did you really beat him? NOPE

Does anyone seriously think floyd wouldve won if he didnt fight in vegas? NOPE Don't think so.