Official Floyd Mayweather- Manny Pacquiao Postfight aftermath discussion

[travestyny]

The point is that your hero said that he had a "torn rotator cuff injury".

but if Floyd said he had a "torn rotator cuff injury", then the talk about surgery will follow .....

Here you go but next time you should look this all up yourself if you think I made this all up.



If he is in top physical condition, he should be able to easily outbox Castillo. Mayweather said he tore his left rotator cuff two days before the first fight and couldn't throw a jab or a left hook. He had surgery following the controversial decision over Castillo and he said his shoulder is completely healed now. Castillo, a 3-1 underdog, said Mayweather was just making excuses. "His problem wasn't his shoulder or his hands," Castillo said. "It was the guy standing across from him.

You've still provided no proof of this surgery. Where is the link from a reliable source stating he had surgery. There are clear posts about Jeff Lacy's surgery, Wladamir Klitschko's surgery, but none about Floyd's? Hmm.

I've shown that he was in training a month and a half after the first Castillo fight. I've also shown that the rematch was scheduled for 5 and a half months after the first fight. Is it possible to have rotator cuff surgery and be ready to fight in 5 and a half months?

Let's get this straight. I've said it's clear that Floyd had some sort of shoulder injury due to the video evidence (him talking to Roger about it, and it being massaged between rounds). You also provided quotes from him corroborating that. Thank you for adding to my proof, buddy.

You claim the injury was sever enough to warrant surgery. I already proved that's impossible.

However, we have YOUR HERO, Manny Pacquaio, who claims to have had a significant enough injury that required surgery, yet no video evidence of him discussing the shoulder during the fight, no video evidence of the shoulder being massaged, and he is clearly using the shoulder in the fight. Hmmm. So what exactly are you trying to prove here, because it looks like you are only succeeding in showing that Manny is full of ****. Either that, or you are arguing that it is possible to fight with a severely torn rotator cuff injury. Either way, your hero's loss is justified.

Keep trying, dude.

[b00g13man]

The grief cycle is real. They are bargaining.

"If only rounds 2,3,8 and 9 were scored the other way, Pac would have won"

"OK, so maybe Pac didn't win, but maybe we can get a victory over Floyd fans instead! Haaa!!"

"OK, so maybe Pac didn't win, but Castillo did!!! Haaa!!!"

Loooool. This is hilarious to witness.

[brickcityboxing]

NSB: Where Jose Luis Castillo's name is only brought up if Floyd is about to fight or wins a fight.

[radioraheem]

Floyd/Castillo - Lederman and Compubox are reliable

Floyd/Pac - Lederman and Compubox are not reliable


Got it. Now you can get back to your bargaining.

[radioraheem]

The grief cycle is real. They are bargaining.

"If only rounds 2,3,8 and 9 were scored the other way, Pac would have won"

"OK, so maybe Pac didn't win, but maybe we can get a victory over Floyd fans instead! Haaa!!"

"OK, so maybe Pac didn't win, but Castillo did!!! Haaa!!!"

This is a good one too.

[RED REP]

Wow this thread!!!

Some posters are so, so embarrassing. Mainly the last few Pacquiao fanboys still trying to argue as if they can change anything.

It's done! It's over! Floyd was the better man.
Let's all move on! The fight wasn't close.

[BrometheusBob.]

The point is that your hero said that he had a "torn rotator cuff injury".

but if Floyd said he had a "torn rotator cuff injury", then the talk about surgery will follow .....

Here you go but next time you should look this all up yourself if you think I made this all up.



If he is in top physical condition, he should be able to easily outbox Castillo. Mayweather said he tore his left rotator cuff two days before the first fight and couldn't throw a jab or a left hook. He had surgery following the controversial decision over Castillo and he said his shoulder is completely healed now. Castillo, a 3-1 underdog, said Mayweather was just making excuses. "His problem wasn't his shoulder or his hands," Castillo said. "It was the guy standing across from him.


Oh, here is a link but its not the only one that talks about all this



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You've still provided no proof of this surgery. Where is the link from a reliable source stating he had surgery. There are clear posts about Jeff Lacy's surgery, Wladamir Klitschko's surgery, but none about Floyd's? Hmm.

I've shown that he was in training a month and a half after the first Castillo fight. I've also shown that the rematch was scheduled for 5 and a half months after the first fight. Is it possible to have rotator cuff surgery and be ready to fight in 5 and a half months?

Let's get this straight. I've said it's clear that Floyd had some sort of shoulder injury due to the video evidence (him talking to Roger about it, and it being massaged between rounds). You also provided quotes from him corroborating that. Thank you for adding to my proof, buddy.

You claim the injury was sever enough to warrant surgery. I already proved that's impossible.

However, we have YOUR HERO, Manny Pacquaio, who claims to have had a significant enough injury that required surgery, yet no video evidence of him discussing the shoulder during the fight, no video evidence of the shoulder being massaged, and he is clearly using the shoulder in the fight. Hmmm. So what exactly are you trying to prove here, because it looks like you are only succeeding in showing that Manny is full of ****. Either that, or you are arguing that it is possible to fight with a severely torn rotator cuff injury. Either way, your hero's loss is justified.

Keep trying, dude.

Wait I'm confused, is the NY Daily News article that said Mayweather had a surgery not up to snuff? And why not? To be clear, I had also posted to this thread a request for a link from him since I had not known about Mayweather having surgery either.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Wow this thread!!!

Some posters are so, so embarrassing. Mainly the last few Pacquiao fanboys still trying to argue as if they can change anything.

It's done! It's over! Floyd was the better man.
Let's all move on! The fight wasn't close.

In truth though, you need this thread or else the bitching is gonna leak into the more active section of NSB.

[travestyny]

Wait I'm confused, is the NY Daily News article that said Mayweather had a surgery not up to snuff? And why not? To be clear, I had also posted to this thread a request for a link from him since I had not known about Mayweather having surgery either.

I've seen one line on the internet about this alleged Mayweather surgery, and it's the same exact line (the one he posted) over and over again, but there is no information about where exactly that line came from.

I don't see how there is any way that it is legitimate. All I'm saying is if I'm wrong, prove me wrong. It's not logical to believe Mayweather had a rotator cuff surgery between the Castillo fights.

*Some examples of boxers who had this surgery*
Wladimir Klitschko -- Surgery July 2009 -- Fights 9 months later.
Jeff Lacy -- Surgery Dec 2006 -- Fights 12 months later
Manny Pacquaio -- Surgery May 2015 -- Projected Return in 9 months

Floyd Mayweather -- No Known Date!!!! -- Scheduled to fight 5.5 months later

It doesn't add up. He was already a big name in boxing, but no information online about this surgery, and he's supposed to rehab it, go to training camp, and fight in 5 months. Plus I posted an article where he gave an interview from "training camp" 1.5 months after the first fight.

ADPOS doesn't even know what he's trying to prove. Is it that Floyd and Pac both lied about their shoulders, Floyd and Pac should have been able to win with rotator cuffs that needed surgery, or they both had a valid excuse?

Likely, it's just that Floyd had a shoulder injury (which video evidence during the fight corroborates) that didn't need surgery at that time, while Pac claimed to have a shoulder injury that needed surgery (with no evidence of it during the fight). Both men used their bum shoulders. It's clear which one seems more suspect.

Time to let it go. No matter what they try to pull out the woodwork, it doesn't hold. It's over.

[ADP02]

Didn't somebody else explain it to you?

There is a difference between saying there is a rotator cuff injury and a torn rotator cuff...

C'mon son

Son? You know that it was explained to you by the least objective boxing fan around? ...... a die hard Floyd fan.

Floyd and his fans made Floyd's injury the excuse for Floyd's poor performance that night. Read below Floyd's post fight interview and later discussing his "torn rotator cuff injury" where Floyd had to get "surgery". Not sure when Floyd had surgery but came back and fought Castillo again after 7 months. Same Floyd fans are saying that Manny is going to come back too early if it was a legitimate injury.

Larry Merchant: Was he much tougher than anticipated?

Floyd: "You have to realize I beat him with a messed up arm ..."

Larry Merchant: "So harder than anticipated?"

Floyd: "With one arm yes, with one arm yes"



"Due to the closeness of their first bout, Mayweather accepted an immediate rematch with José Luis Castillo which took place on December 7, 2002. Before the rematch, Mayweather reiterated that he had torn his left rotator cuff two days before the first fight and could not throw a jab or a left hook. (Floyd should go check out my gifs in my previous post)
Floyd had surgery following the controversial decision over Castillo, and said his shoulder had fully healed."



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ADPOS doesn't even know what he's trying to prove. .

I already explained it to you but you seem to be stuck with the word "surgery" but like I even restated to you, I was responding to someone (see above post) who was saying that there was a difference because Manny had a "torn" rotator cuff while Floyd only had a "rotator cuff" injury. So AGAIN, as I already explained to you, I already proved my point!

Whether Floyd really had what he claimed and if you believe that he really did have surgery, well, go check out all the threads on this subject and how much Floyd fans defended both the injury and yes, even the surgery that followed.

Now even if I went further with this, it would be useless because quite a bit of information is out there on Manny's "torn rotator cuff" and you Floyd fans are calling that BS. Nor was it my point. You Floyd fans used that before without caring about proof. I even said so numerous times in recent threads. Floyd fans defended and defended Floyd.


So again, Floyd said he had and here is a video of Roger saying that it was indeed a "torn rotator cuff injury" that Floyd had for the Castillo fight.


1:10 min mark





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