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    Putting Floyd in his Place

    This isn’t a Mayweather-Pacquiao discussion so mods don’t delete. It isn’t a thread about me nor any other poster either so try not to keep take it there.

    The poster “Malcolm?made a really good point in another thread that got me thinking. I remember watching Floyd Mayweather fighting Louie Leija on what I believe was the Morales-Zaragoza undercard (wow…who could’ve imagined known what was to come for both of those guys? Shout out to Bob Arum). I also remember being extremely impressed with the number Mayweather did on Genaro Hernandez. I was still in my teens then. 17 years later, I'm a married man. And this dude is still undefeated.

    Not a Marciano kind of undefeated either. Even if he had a loss or two, Mayweather’s resume would still ***** Rocky’s resume handily. Some would point to fights that could have been made but you can say that about anyone. The fact that he’s remained undefeated in the fights that have been made is ridiculous. Hernandez, Manfredy, Corrales, Castillo, a prime Corley, Judah, Gatti, De La Hoya, Hatton, Marquez, Mosley, Cotto, Alvarez, etc. etc. That is one hell of a resume. And if he faces and beat Pacquiao well then he can call himself whatever he wants. But in the meantime, looking at it objectively in 2015, where do you think Floyd Mayweather stands in the boxing annals? Top 25? Higher? Lower? What would he need to do in order to stamp himself as a top 10 fighter? Or is that out of the question?

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      #3
      Originally posted by 80sFighter View Post
      OMG

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        Originally posted by 80sFighter View Post
        you caught me off guard,and now im dying XD

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          I think top 10 is pretty much forever set in Stone. You can argue placings, but there's no room for Floyd (or Pac for that matter).

          I reckon Ray Leonard is probably around 15-20. Not that I have a list, but that would be my grasp. Question is how far off Ray's resume Floyd are? The thing is that there really is no one you can legitimately say is missing from Srl's resume, but you can quite easily say that about Floyd. Even if he does fight Pac, the fight is some 5 years too late and both have lost a step.

          So I dont know Dazed. I reckon around top 30. Maybe 20-25 if you push it and he beats Pac.

          What's your own estimate?

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            #6
            Top 30-40. If he beats Pacquiao then top 20 I suppose, but he lost to Castillo the first time.

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              #7
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
              I think top 10 is pretty much forever set in Stone. You can argue placings, but there's no room for Floyd (or Pac for that matter).

              I reckon Ray Leonard is probably around 15-20. Not that I have a list, but that would be my grasp. Question is how far off Ray's resume Floyd are? The thing is that there really is no one you can legitimately say is missing from Srl's resume, but you can quite easily say that about Floyd. Even if he does fight Pac, the fight is some 5 years too late and both have lost a step.

              So I dont know Dazed. I reckon around top 30. Maybe 20-25 if you push it and he beats Pac.

              What's your own estimate?
              I'd say he's Top 25 right now but I haven't made a list either. The Ring had him #12 on their last all-time list. I was a little surprised by that so not sure I agree. But they aren't 20 places off. Pacquiao is still a top 3 pound for pounder and an ATG. I think a decisive win over him moves Mayweather up by quite a bit. And vice versa. If Mayweather doesn't get that fight I'm not sure there are too many other opponents out there that can change his historical standing.

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                #8
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
                I think top 10 is pretty much forever set in Stone. You can argue placings, but there's no room for Floyd (or Pac for that matter).

                I reckon Ray Leonard is probably around 15-20. Not that I have a list, but that would be my grasp. Question is how far off Ray's resume Floyd are? The thing is that there really is no one you can legitimately say is missing from Srl's resume, but you can quite easily say that about Floyd. Even if he does fight Pac, the fight is some 5 years too late and both have lost a step.

                So I dont know Dazed. I reckon around top 30. Maybe 20-25 if you push it and he beats Pac.

                What's your own estimate?
                I dont necessarily agree with that. At some point in boxing's future an undeniable talent who takes on everyone will come around.

                Would help if boxing garnered more attention. Maybe this network deall will help.

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                  #9
                  Went on to my old YT account, remembered my password, came across this which was in my favorites



                  Amazing really. Also have a video in my favorites, very little views, Mayweather confidently giving out how he intends to approach Pacquiao in the ring.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                    I'd say he's Top 25 right now but I haven't made a list either. The Ring had him #12 on their last all-time list. I was a little surprised by that so not sure I agree. But they aren't 20 places off. Pacquiao is still a top 3 pound for pounder and an ATG. I think a decisive win over him moves Mayweather up by quite a bit. And vice versa. If Mayweather doesn't get that fight I'm not sure there are too many other opponents out there that can change his historical standing.
                    Beating GGG at 160 would lift him big. Particularly if Golovkin returns to dominate the division for years subsequently.

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