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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostSome people don't realize that when you start comparing greats, you have to not only look at the top-end but also the contenders they fought.
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Originally posted by PBP View PostThis is true but the top end is what separates a top 10 ATG from a top 25 ATG and Floyd's resume at the top-end is luke warm compared other greats.
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too much of a diva to be considered a genuinely great fighter. has to have everything his way or he doesn't fight these days. great fighters fight anybody, anywhere, any time. that isn't to say he isn't a top top fighter because he obviously is, but all his politics don't sit well with me.
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Top 20-25.
Longevity should also be considered. Being on top at the age of 37 is extremely hard. He is possibly the best 37 year old of all time. Also arguably the best superfeather of all time.
Best wins: Corrales, Hernandez, Castillo, Hatton, Cotto, Mosley
In some ways his legacy could be enhanced in time for example if Canelo went on to be a great (not saying he will but it's possible) then that may be looked at as an even better win.
I wouldn't at all be surprised in 20 years time if both Floyd and Pacquiao were widely considered top 10 all time. I feel like fighters are rated much higher once they are gone.
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Originally posted by El-blanco View PostEasily higher than roy jones? Come on man, who has he beat that's as good as James toney at the time? Jones beat guy that weighed 30 pounds heavier than him.
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Originally posted by Caught Square View PostTop 20-25.
Longevity should also be considered. Being on top at the age of 37 is extremely hard. He is possibly the best 37 year old of all time. Also arguably the best superfeather of all time.
Best wins: Corrales, Hernandez, Castillo, Hatton, Cotto, Mosley
In some ways his legacy could be enhanced in time for example if Canelo went on to be a great (not saying he will but it's possible) then that may be looked at as an even better win.
I wouldn't at all be surprised in 20 years time if both Floyd and Pacquiao were widely considered top 10 all time. I feel like fighters are rated much higher once they are gone.
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostYeah I agree with that for sure. I'm just making a point to the clown who was whining because I put in a prime Corley, clearly missing my point and just butthurt about Floyd in general.
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Originally posted by SeekDaGreat View PostSo, you start the thread by saying how great Floyds resume is. Then admit to your buddy how luke warm it is at the top. So you're saying he has a "great" resume against contenders and a average resume against elite? Are you standing by your initial comment of how great Floyds resume is? Or it just depends who asks you?
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