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    Comments Thread For: “Fighting Words” — Titled Wilder Still Work in Progress

    by David P. Greisman - There were as many reasons to doubt Deontay Wilder as there were reasons to believe in him, to think that that he would be the latest overhyped heavyweight to underdeliver.

    If you could doubt a man who had scored knockouts in all 32 of wins, it was because you were already acquainted with a sport where prospects can become contenders, contenders can become titleholders, and titleholders can remain undefeated, all while still being untested.

    It was because you had seen so many built up on shaky foundations — built on the backs of laid-out opponents, foes whose felling can give the impression of a fighter being a world-beater. Often that impression is proven an illusion once he steps in against those closer to world-class.

    Boxing’s biggest men have been a sizable share of the flawed and the frauds, with Michael Grant one of the more infamous cautionary tales. Grant was 31-0 with 22 knockouts when he fought for the heavyweight championship against Lennox Lewis, only to be knocked down four times in less than six minutes. That at least was a defeat against a future Hall of Famer; 15 months later Grant was dispatched in less than a minute by Jameel McCline.

    Wilder, like Grant, is a 6-foot-7 former team-sport athlete who turned to boxing at a later age, nearly 20 when he first entered the amateur ranks. His height, speed and raw skill made him the unlikely lone medalist on the American Olympic boxing team in 2008, a performance that earned him the nickname of “Bronze Bomber.” Like Grant he had to develop as a pro, moved carefully over the course of about six years until an opportunity, barely deserved, presented itself. [Click Here To Read More]

    #2
    Now is the time Wilder needs to get some serious traing from the likes of Larry Holmes to develope a pistol-like jab to add to his speed, power and natural aguile abilities. He'll definite need this to even compete with the likes of Klitchko.

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      #3
      "Weeks rightly didn't rule it a knockdown"? Stiverne almost hit the canvas a second time after the three were untangled. but, back to Stiverne's tackling Wilder. Is it in the rule book that if a fighter falling from a punch tackles his opponents legs that it isn't a knockdown (especially if he brings both his opponent and the ref to the canvas)? How wasn't Stiverne knocked down? He was falling after being hit repeatedly, and he only grabbed Wilder's legs to prevent a clean fall to the canvas - a fall which he could not stop., This was not a case of legs tangling bringing Stiverne to the canvas. Stiverne was out from punches - out enough that he could not keep from falling and falling hard enough that he brought the two other men in the ring down to the canvas with him. Not knockdown?!?! What then constitutes a knockdown? Wilder hits Stiverne repeatedly. Stiverne cannot keep from falling - even though he grabbed Wilder around the legs! If a fighter loses consciousness to the extent that he falls to the canvas, it is a knockdown. If a fighter loses consciousness to the extent that even grabbing his opponent around both legs cannot prevent his falling to the canvas, that's a knockdown! If is not, then what is it? A knockup?
      Last edited by Mr.Daddy; 01-19-2015, 12:21 PM.

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        #4
        The Cat has Talent and Attitude....
        Two Attributes of all Great Fighter!!!

        Smart Dude, Good Whiskers Too....

        Time will tell...Lotta folks paying Attention...

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          #5
          Originally posted by Mr.Daddy View Post
          "Weeks rightly didn't rule it a knockdown"? Stiverne almost hit the canvas a second time after the three were untangled. but, back to Stiverne's tackling Wilder. Is it in the rule book that if a fighter falling from a punch tackles his opponents legs that it isn't a knockdown (especially if he brings both his opponent and the ref to the canvas)? How wasn't Stiverne knocked down? He was falling after being hit repeatedly, and he only grabbed Wilder's legs to prevent a clean fall to the canvas - a fall which he could not stop., This was not a case of legs tangling bringing Stiverne to the canvas. Stiverne was out from punches - out enough that he could not keep from falling and falling hard enough that he brought the two other men in the ring down to the canvas with him. Not knockdown?!?! What then constitutes a knockdown? Wilder hits Stiverne repeatedly. Stiverne cannot keep from falling - even though he grabbed Wilder around the legs! If a fighter loses consciousness to the extent that he falls to the canvas, it is a knockdown. If a fighter loses consciousness to the extent that even grabbing his opponent around both legs cannot prevent his falling to the canvas, that's a knockdown! If is not, then what is it? A knockup?
          I think the issue is that Wilder was still punching as the bell rang - at least 1 of the shots was after the bell.

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            #6
            So, this "journalist" is advocating that Wilder avoid Klitschko until the man is old and heavily thinking of retiring.

            What a coward suggestion.

            Let the circus begin.

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              #7
              Originally posted by boxingfocus View Post
              I think the issue is that Wilder was still punching as the bell rang - at least 1 of the shots was after the bell.
              Okay. I wasn't aware of that.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Dle View Post
                Now is the time Wilder needs to get some serious traing from the likes of Larry Holmes to develope a pistol-like jab to add to his speed, power and natural aguile abilities. He'll definite need this to even compete with the likes of Klitchko.
                WHAT?! Did you even watch the fight?

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