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If Hopkins beats Kovalev, where does he fall P4P?

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    #21
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
    Don't think so. Tarver never showed me real legitimate power outside of a passed it Roy Jones. Decent power but not the kind of power Kovalev has. Kovalev isn't the hardest puncher he's fought P4P but I'd say he is at LHW. He's not a blown up MW like Pavlik or a bum like Tavouris Cloud.

    Even if this were the case, that fight was almost a decade ago now. In recent years he hasn't fought many good fighters.

    Kovalev doesn't possess anything Hopkins hasn't seen but he does posses things he hasn't seen in quite a while. And that's why I think it's interesting.

    But like I said I'm still picking Hopkins.
    I think Tarver has much more power (See KO's of Eric Harding, etc.) but it's a matter of opinion really. Regardless, Hopkins has been hit hard before in his life. Kovalev isn't bringing anything to the table but a puncher's chance. Unless Hops shows his age...he has no chance. And he really doesn't. We shall see.

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      #22
      Wishful thinking, Hopkins is going to get destroyed by Killa Kov. Hit me up if any of you chumps want to lose your e-money.
      Last edited by BOXEO _; 11-03-2014, 10:39 AM.

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        #23
        Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        I think Tarver has much more power (See KO's of Eric Harding, etc.) but it's a matter of opinion really. Regardless, Hopkins has been hit hard before in his life. Kovalev isn't bringing anything to the table but a puncher's chance. Unless Hops shows his age...he has no chance. And he really doesn't. We shall see.
        It took him 17 rounds and Eric Harding didn't look the same to me after the Roy Jones fight. Plus it's Eric Harding. I cannot see any way Tarver has much more power than Kovalev. I wouldn't even consider that hard a puncher. I think if there's one thing Kovalev can do it's punch very hard.

        Like I said I agree I think Hopkins will win aswell but it's interesting because Hopkins hasn't faced this kind of challenge for a long time. Let's say Tarver is a harder puncher who cuts off the ring better, that was a long time ago.

        For example if Hopkins gets hit as much as he did against Murat against Kovalev then he might be in trouble.

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          #24
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
          It took him 17 rounds and Eric Harding didn't look the same to me after the Roy Jones fight. Plus it's Eric Harding. I cannot see any way Tarver has much more power than Kovalev. I wouldn't even consider that hard a puncher. I think if there's one thing Kovalev can do it's punch very hard.

          Like I said I agree I think Hopkins will win aswell but it's interesting because Hopkins hasn't faced this kind of challenge for a long time. Let's say Tarver is a harder puncher who cuts off the ring better, that was a long time ago.

          For example if Hopkins gets hit as much as he did against Murat against Kovalev then he might be in trouble.
          Yeah it's really a matter of opinion. But your last line says it all. Kovalev has a puncher's chance. That's it.

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            #25
            Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
            If Hopkins wins convincingly (which he likely will), I hope it forces people to evaluate the caliber of Kovalev and maybe stop hyping some of these guys up. FYI -- look at his resume. Nothing he's done should elevate anyone to top 5 p4p status.
            this^^^^^^^

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              #26
              if b hop wins he should fall somewhere between 8 and 10. beating kovalev isnt that big of a deal. it will be the equivalent of Floyd beating maidana. decent win, nothing special.


              my p4p list

              mayweather
              ward
              rigo
              pac
              wlad
              Bradley
              marquez
              froch
              golovkin
              canelo
              gonzalez
              d Garcia
              cotto
              m Garcia
              crawford

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                #27
                Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                Yeah it's really a matter of opinion. But your last line says it all. Kovalev has a puncher's chance. That's it.
                Yeah it is but I don't see that opinion having strong basis

                Well it's not just a punchers chance because if he's that hittable in this fight he will get hurt multiple punches.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  If Hopkins wins convincingly (which he likely will), I hope it forces people to evaluate the caliber of Kovalev and maybe stop hyping some of these guys up. FYI -- look at his resume. Nothing he's done should elevate anyone to top 5 p4p status.
                  Who has Kovalev top 5p4p?

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