A Side Picks the Gloves

[El-blanco]

Why would you go on a "tirade" against other fighters when you can hone in on one guy ....it makes things less complicated for you eh?

On one hand you say all fighters should have one set of rules,but choose to nag exclusively about one guy....it's transparent.

BTW, I'm waiting your reply for the set of questions I asked you earlier =)

Here's a new question-

Would you have a problem if both guys had to wear the MX gloves?

I think you're confusing me for someone that hates mayweather. I think he's an idiot but definitely one of the best I've ever seen fight.

If the commission says those are the only allowable gloves, then I have no problem with it. Both fighters know the deal going into the fight. This is not the case here. Maidana wanted to use an allowable glove and at the 11th hour your idol cried like a *****. You're not as smart as you think, stop attempting to make me look like a hypocrite by asking me these setup questions.

[damned1974]

I think you're confusing me for someone that hates mayweather. I think he's an idiot but definitely one of the best I've ever seen fight.

If the commission says those are the only allowable gloves, then I have no problem with it. Both fighters know the deal going into the fight. This is not the case here. Maidana wanted to use an allowable glove and at the 11th hour your idol cried like a *****. You're not as smart as you think, stop attempting to make me look like a hypocrite by asking me these setup questions.

Chill out...they are just questions. If you are a hypocrite, you are a hypocrite-nothing I can say will change that. I see why you don't directly answer the previous questions-because it suggests so.

Maidana also tried to use gloves that the commission deemed unfair...of course you forget to mention that.

If he uses powerlock gloves (which he is training in), would it be unfair to let him wear his originally preferred ones that he has not been training with??? The point I am making is, the excuses never cease...

Of course this fight is for both the WW and JMW division-will you have a problem with gloves that are heavier-because that is a possibility...

[gamefrk]

So are you saying Erik Morales was a b1tch? How about Oscar? This is not a new subject like you guys think....Is Maidana really that crap that he can only win with a special pair of gloves? Can't he win by dominating rounds or having a higher output, or being an effective aggressor??? Can't he score ko's without a specific glove???? He has been training with powerlock gloves-can't he get a win over opponents otherwise????

Didn't Mayweather find a way to win when demands were over him against Oscar??? This is why you need to be versatile in boxing-it's not JUST about power-it is also about skill.

When Oscar & Morales pulled the same stunt..their opponents didn't express their discontent as much as the Maidana camp did..Oscar+Morales opponents are guilty too because they accepted their glove demands without much protest. Maidana camp on the other hand highlighted this bytch move clearly before the fight & at the post fight conference..this was very well documented thanks to several videos on YouTube & All Access as well..thanks to all of that we have boxing fans here debating this serious issue.

You have to understand that Maidana is a C/D class fighter who is slow + power punching brawler who can't box. When power his is greatest asset & he likes to use a specific type of commission approved glove..then why try to take that away from him?

Maidana wins fights with aggression and power but can only do so with a specific type of glove....is this what you are saying?

Why doesn't he have power when he switches gloves? Floyd was snapping his head silly wearing these supposed pillows.

A lot of you guys were saying Maidana won that fight with these SAME gloves, but they are somehow a disadvantage????

The glove issue is repetitive and blown out of proportion...are you telling me that nobody has scored ko's with powerlock gloves????

When Maidana can be at his power punching best with a specific brand of gloves which are commission approved then why not allow him to use those gloves? No one is saying that no fighter has scored KO's with powerlocks...does that make it OK for the A side to force the B side to wear them?

Why would you go on a "tirade" against other fighters when you can hone in on one guy ....it makes things less complicated for you eh?

On one hand you say all fighters should have one set of rules,but choose to nag exclusively about one guy....it's transparent.

BTW, I'm waiting your reply for the set of questions I asked you earlier =)

Here's a new question-

Would you have a problem if both guys had to wear the MX gloves?

To the bold part: Both guys should be free to wear whichever brand they wish to. The commission shouldn't force gloves for fighters like Mayweather does. Some people have no problems with their hands & some people have brittle hands..the fighters with hand issues use orthopedic gloves to protect their fists. Imagine the commission decides that both fighters have to wear Mexican Everlast gloves, imagine Floyd breaking his brittle hands with no extra padding & cutting short his career..would you be absolutely OK with this move of the commission? Would you be OK if a fighters career ends because of hand injuries just because he couldn't wear his choice of commission approved orthopedic gloves?

[MDPopescu]

The recent history of the sport shows that the "A side" may choose the gloves and that this choice was stipulated into the initial fight contracts.

But I'll repeat: The present issue emerged when Mayweather made Maidana change his gloves with 24 hours prior to the fight -- as Maidana used his regular MX during the training camp and never tried the Powerlocks, which he was eventually forced to fight with.

[Aztekkas]

This whole A-Side/B-Side is freaking ******ed, imo. Perhaps because I'm a fan of the sport and not of just a handful of specific fighters, but I feel like it's not very sportsman like. Imagine if the "A-Side" Basketball/soccer/tennis player/etc.. got to choose what shoes the "B-Side" opponent had to wear during the game. It sounds ****ing ******ed, but what makes it worse is the fact that some folks are hanging on to this ******ed claim as a base to their arguments.

Personally, I like Floyd in-ring and admire what he has done with himself as a professional, but this argument is ******ed. Not only do they sound like broken records they constantly remind me of a Cassette tape with all this A/B Side talk.. bunch of nonsense talk. Simply because you rake in the money doesn't mean you're above anyone else. In this sport both men in the ring work extremely hard for several weeks to even make weight, they eat,breathe and sleep the gym and routines just to attempt to make a living in such a brutal sport… But now just because one fighter is more known or makes more revenue than his opponent he will get special treatment? Bull*****. The fight game is tough as it is without all this extra diva drama...

[Da Machine]

He's not the first to complain about gloves before the fight and won't be the last...the commission even turned down the first pair of gloves. Are you saying the only way Maidana can win is by using special gloves? Can't he get by on skill or dominating rounds or does he need specific gloves? It's not like they are pillows, you guys are being over-dramatic.

Quit twisting ****. He wanted him to switch models completely. Thats different then seeing a shady pair of gloves and complaining.

Again-where were you while Pac, Cotto and Oscar made their own demands????? You guys hone in on one fighter wayyyyyyy too much.

Again, they didnt request it the night before the fight with all kinds of contradictions.

[joesaiditstrue]

Maidana wins fights with aggression and power but can only do so with a specific type of glove....is this what you are saying?

Why doesn't he have power when he switches gloves? Floyd was snapping his head silly wearing these supposed pillows.

A lot of you guys were saying Maidana won that fight with these SAME gloves, but they are somehow a disadvantage????

The glove issue is repetitive and blown out of proportion...are you telling me that nobody has scored ko's with powerlock gloves????

You're such a dope

You're arguing out of both sides of your mouth and are too ****ing ****** to realize it

welcome to NSB everybody!

[gamefrk]

It's impossible to control this. When one fighter can generate hundreds of millions of dollars for the city and the other can't even fill up a local ballroom this type of stuff will exist. It's not like football where you have an organized league with franchises that represent cities and can sell out every week. The franchise makes money from ticket sales, advertising and TV contracts and pays its players salaries. In boxing, only 3 fighters can currently fill up an arena in Vegas and the payout is based on your popularity.

The Commission won't do anything because Floyd will take his business elsewhere and the city will lose millions. The sanctioning bodies can't do anything because sanctioning fees are based on a percentage of a fighters purse and Floyd's purses are more than 50 times that of your typical boxer.

As has been the case for the last 100 years, if the B-side wants the opportunity, he is just going to have to concede to the demands and try to find a way to win with a handicap. The chips are always stacked against the B-side from the contract stipulations, to the refs, to the judges to the fans. When they are able to pull it off, it makes the win that much more sweeter.

It's true that only a few fighters can generate millions through one night of boxing. But at the same time I think the gloves manipulation can be avoided by the B side. If the B side needs the A side to make the fight happen..the A side needs the B just as much. If things like gloves aren't in the contract & the B side are being manipulated when it comes to gloves...they can stand their ground when if they want to use X brand/make of gloves when they have been approved by the commission. The A side is basically bluffing when they claim that they wont come out to fight..they've got more to lose. I agree the B side also has a lot to lose when it comes to pay-day, $$ already spent on training camp etc...but I still feel the B side can call their bluff during weigh-in/fight night & use the gear they wish to.

All this while I though only the fighters, referees & judges were corrupt...turns out the commissions are also involved when they don't do anything to rectify all this.

[The Big Dunn]

Forget about all the recent events/controversies. Would it be okay if from this day onward for EVERY fight the A side gets to choose the gloves for the B side of the fight? Would you as fans be alright if this became a STANDARD & is INCLUDED IN THE CONTRACTS too?

Vote & discuss!

I see no need to change this process. Its been done for so long and hasn't been an issue until now. Its not really an issue anywhere but on NSB and only with a few posters.

[Evol]

No I don't think a fighter should choose the gloves of another fighter. It makes the fighter look p*ssy if he's fighting a guy that hits hard and wants to make him fight with glove that have more padding. Would u agree that it makes him look soft???

yeah the picking gloves thing is a punk move.. thats like telling kobe, LB, jordan that they have to wear some different brands shoes.