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    Originally posted by -Scott-Weiland- View Post
    'You can't see many rounds that were clearly Wlad rounds' apply that same logic to this question, how many rounds were clearly Fury rounds ? Then come back here and see if you can say it without me laughing my ass of at you. Please I need humouring, it's been an awful day.





    They were both great, undeniably. As Elroy says statistically their is a great case for Wlad being GOAT, I'm really unsure where I stand in regards to that.

    Even in victory over Klitschko Fury still has a very very.. long way to go before he can be considered a greater champion than Klistchko, the victory however good is somewhat hollow until he has achieved anything near wha Klitschko achieved.

    I won't sit here and list his record breaking achievements but for me he eclipses Joe Louis H2H anyway. Do I believe he was the GOAT, no I'm not sure I do, but as I say their is a great case for him. Amd if he was black American I believe he would have been accepted already and established long ago.

    So you believe all his opponents have been one dimensional ? That is intriguing as it is interesting. What is Fury that all these other Olympians, former world champions, title holders, unified cruisers and prospects alike are not excluding his size and reach advantages, you put Fury in with a guy his own size for the first time in his career and he looked exceptionally mediocre at best, it just so happened his opponents offered even less than he did himself !

    Your agenda has been shattered by no one else other than yourself. Are you genuinely even a Fury fan ?

    Time to put your Ray Ban's back on.
    Solid post with thoroughly defined logic and gratitude.

    Fury for the first time ever fought a guy close to his own size.. Got the win, but didn't look very good suddenly doing so!!

    Laced Up has already outdone himself in principle..

    And I have a feeling the near future will also outdo him in practice also.

    I don't want to dismiss LEnnox Lewis as he could have beaten Wladimir and Fury for all I know, but we don't KNOW that.

    Hell if Mercer can nearly beat Lewis and Mavrovic could stretch him the distance, and Rahman could KO him, it's pretty imaginable what an in form Wlad K or Tyson F could do.

    Calvin Brock
    Sultan Ibragimov
    Ruslan Chagaev
    David Haye
    Hasim Rahman
    Ray Mercer
    Alexander Povetkin
    Bryant Jennings
    Kubrat Pulev
    Samuel Peter
    Lamon Brewster
    Chris Byrd
    Eddie Chambers
    Francois Botha
    Tony Thompson

    Just a shortlist of 15 high profile opponents among many many other quality opponents that were all dispatched without question.

    The world has never seen such a stacked HW resume to date I am afraid!

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      Originally posted by -Scott-Weiland- View Post
      Whoever loses beats Wilder. Yet even then Wilder will continue to crow, 'I'm gonna wait for Fury/Wlad to get old/er, doe'

      What an embarrassing statement by a boxer, one of those cringe moments when you're a fan right ? Looks even more cringeworthy now Wlad has lost and some attribute it to age with the Jennings fight a majority claiming Wlad was already on the slide also.

      Wat can be expected from Haymon stable fighters though huh ?
      Notice anything funny about Fury? He beats Klitschko through speed and fighting as the bigger man? But a version of Klitschko who was hesitant from throwing the entire fight. He just did enough to win too..

      But again people who apply pressure, he seems to struggle.. Wilder will end his hype. He's trying so hard to be a "bad guy" in boxing like Floyd. The worst of all, he's ****ing boring. Even his KO's are boring, he's not a legitimate knockout artist either, at least not against Elite competition. If fury beats Wlad again and somehow Wilder, we're in for a heavyweight version of Floyd which is absolutely HORRENDOUS. Boring clinching and running. If this case scenario does happen in the future, it's a good thing Fury is a fat fluff of inbred gyp. He won't last long, he'll decline quite quickly.. especially the way he's been slacking off in the past

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        Originally posted by -Scott-Weiland- View Post
        'You can't see many rounds that were clearly Wlad rounds' apply that same logic to this question, how many rounds were clearly Fury rounds ? Then come back here and see if you can say it without me laughing my ass of at you. Please I need humouring, it's been an awful day.

        They were both great, undeniably. As Elroy says statistically their is a great case for Wlad being GOAT, I'm really unsure where I stand in regards to that.

        Even in victory over Klitschko Fury still has a very very.. long way to go before he can be considered a greater champion than Klistchko, the victory however good is somewhat hollow until he has achieved anything near wha Klitschko achieved.

        I won't sit here and list his record breaking achievements but for me he eclipses Joe Louis H2H anyway. Do I believe he was the GOAT, no I'm not sure I do, but as I say their is a great case for him. Amd if he was black American I believe he would have been accepted already and established long ago.

        So you believe all his opponents have been one dimensional ? That is intriguing as it is interesting. What is Fury that all these other Olympians, former world champions, title holders, unified cruisers and prospects alike are not excluding his size and reach advantages, you put Fury in with a guy his own size for the first time in his career and he looked exceptionally mediocre at best, it just so happened his opponents offered even less than he did himself !

        Your agenda has been shattered by no one else other than yourself. Are you genuinely even a Fury fan ?

        Time to put your Ray Ban's back on.
        Fury won plenty of rounds clearly. I don't think I have to explain that, it was clear to see for everybody.

        There is no case for Wlad being the GOAT or Vitali for that matter. NO case at all.

        Of course Fury has a long way to go. Never said he didn't. He has a great win over Wlad, but it remains his only great win.

        No I'm not saying ALL of his opponents were one dimensional, but most were. Wlad has been one-dimensional though and when he's faced with a guy his own size who wasn't one dimensional we all saw what happened. Wlad has been used to over powering smaller fighters, leaning on them, clinching and holding his way to them being completely exhausted. Once that was removed from his game he had little else to offer.

        What agenda?

        Yes I'm genuinely a Fury fan, I wasn't to begin with admittedly. but ever since the Cunningham fight he warmed me up a lot. Plus I like his character a lot. He brings a lot to boxing.

        He's been one of my favourite fighters for a while now, and that would have been the case even if Wlad had flattened him in the first round.

        I always said, and you can go back and check, that if Wlad won against Fury I'd be highly impressed and thought it would be one of his best wins.

        You thought Fury didn't stand a cats chance in hell of winning against Wlad, and now you're discrediting Fury's clear win over a supposed ATG.

        I wonder who has the agenda.

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          Originally posted by BOMB ZQUAD View Post
          you're not confident with Tyson winning the rematch?
          Of course I am

          But why would I give you odds on a fight where your pick is the favourite?

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            Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
            Fury won plenty of rounds clearly. I don't think I have to explain that, it was clear to see for everybody.

            There is no case for Wlad being the GOAT or Vitali for that matter. NO case at all.

            Of course Fury has a long way to go. Never said he didn't. He has a great win over Wlad, but it remains his only great win.

            No I'm not saying ALL of his opponents were one dimensional, but most were. Wlad has been one-dimensional though and when he's faced with a guy his own size who wasn't one dimensional we all saw what happened. Wlad has been used to over powering smaller fighters, leaning on them, clinching and holding his way to them being completely exhausted. Once that was removed from his game he had little else to offer.

            What agenda?

            Yes I'm genuinely a Fury fan, I wasn't to begin with admittedly. but ever since the Cunningham fight he warmed me up a lot. Plus I like his character a lot. He brings a lot to boxing.

            He's been one of my favourite fighters for a while now, and that would have been the case even if Wlad had flattened him in the first round.

            I always said, and you can go back and check, that if Wlad won against Fury I'd be highly impressed and thought it would be one of his best wins.

            You thought Fury didn't stand a cats chance in hell of winning against Wlad, and now you're discrediting Fury's clear win over a supposed ATG.

            I wonder who has the agenda.


            Actually your statement of fury winning rounds doesn't provide anything..."I" have..name a round he clearly won? Still waiting for the fanboys to attack my breakdown?Wont happen b/c we know my exact times of missed punches would generate a possible miscalculation of the fight in whole....what shocks me is Klitchko camp not reviewing what I did...in any case as stated point out Exactly where Wlad lost the rounds that led to to the LOSS ?

            im actually more shocked at the Klitcko fans have not re examined the fight based on the times and rnds what I posted to refute anything that was wrong...if so ...well Wlad WON the fight! Or it as razor close...take your pick?

            As stated ive been studying fights for ovwer 20 years ,and this was no different and was actually easier in the end since FEW punches were actually thrown!
            Last edited by juggernaut666; 12-12-2015, 02:22 AM.

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              Originally posted by BOMB ZQUAD View Post
              Notice anything funny about Fury? He beats Klitschko through speed and fighting as the bigger man? But a version of Klitschko who was hesitant from throwing the entire fight. He just did enough to win too..

              But again people who apply pressure, he seems to struggle.. Wilder will end his hype. He's trying so hard to be a "bad guy" in boxing like Floyd. The worst of all, he's ****ing boring. Even his KO's are boring, he's not a legitimate knockout artist either, at least not against Elite competition. If fury beats Wlad again and somehow Wilder, we're in for a heavyweight version of Floyd which is absolutely HORRENDOUS. Boring clinching and running. If this case scenario does happen in the future, it's a good thing Fury is a fat fluff of inbred gyp. He won't last long, he'll decline quite quickly.. especially the way he's been slacking off in the past
              Fury was ready to go in the 12th, he was hanging on for dear life. Had it been a 15 rounder, Vladimir most likely would have knocked him out. Fury was gassed, his trunks were hanging from his arse, literally.

              And I agree with you that Wilder knocks out Fury in brutal fashion.

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                Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
                Actually your statement of fury winning rounds doesn't provide anything..."I" have..name a round he clearly won? Still waiting for the fanboys to attack my breakdown?Wont happen b/c we know my exact times of missed punches would generate a possible miscalculation of the fight in whole....what shocks me is Klitchko camp not reviewing what I did...in any case as stated point out Exactly where Wlad lost the rounds that led to to the LOSS ?

                im actually more shocked at the Klitcko fans have not re examined the fight based on the times and rnds what I posted to refute anything that was wrong...if so ...well Wlad WON the fight! Or it as razor close...take your pick?

                As stated ive been studying fights for ovwer 20 years ,and this was no different and was actually easier in the end since FEW punches were actually thrown!
                Delusional.

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                  Originally posted by -Weltschmerz- View Post
                  Fury was ready to go in the 12th, he was hanging on for dear life. Had it been a 15 rounder, Vladimir most likely would have knocked him out. Fury was gassed, his trunks were hanging from his arse, literally.

                  And I agree with you that Wilder knocks out Fury in brutal fashion.
                  Ready to go

                  Jesus you guys are the worst scummy fanboys in the world.

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                    Originally posted by BOMB ZQUAD View Post
                    Notice anything funny about Fury? He beats Klitschko through speed and fighting as the bigger man? But a version of Klitschko who was hesitant from throwing the entire fight. He just did enough to win too..
                    What's funny about that?

                    Originally posted by BOMB ZQUAD View Post
                    But again people who apply pressure, he seems to struggle.. Wilder will end his hype.
                    This is rich. Fury's 'hype' has come from just dethroning the best man in the division. In other words, it's fully justified praise. Wilder's the hype machine, and given how poorly he performed against two virtual gimmes in his last two defences I don't see how Fury has any kind of problem with him.

                    Tyson's perfectly calm under fire. Chisora tried to apply pressure and was wrecked. Hammer and Abell tried to apply pressure and were wrecked. Which come forward fighter of recent years has given Fury trouble? I can't think of a single one.

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                      Originally posted by -Weltschmerz- View Post
                      Fury was ready to go in the 12th, he was hanging on for dear life. Had it been a 15 rounder, Vladimir most likely would have knocked him out. Fury was gassed, his trunks were hanging from his arse, literally.

                      And I agree with you that Wilder knocks out Fury in brutal fashion.
                      This is pathetic mate. Why can't you just give Fury credit without resorting to lies like this?

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