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Is there a SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that Pacquiao USED STEROIDS?

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    Originally posted by The Tase View Post
    Solid, irrefutable evidence that Pacquiao used steroids.

    I just want one.

    YO Paulie! Malignaggi,

    if you are reading this, feel free to log in to your bscene account (i dont care which alt account you use) which most likely has red karma, and post your evidence.

    ill wait.

    thanks in advance.
    Why didn't Pacquiao undertake random drug testing at the peak of his performances?

    You don't think that's su****ious? The excuses his team came up with made him look worse.

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      Originally posted by IronDanHamza View Post
      Well Floyd did say during the original negotiations that if Pacquaio doesn't agree to 14 days then it will be off the table and if they negotiate again it will without a cut off date.

      Then down the line conveniently 14 days is ok.
      Originally posted by Doctor_Tenma View Post
      It was shortly after Pacquiao signed to face Clottey that Mayweather took the 14 days off the table, he was well within his right to do so. Also, this wasn't about cutoff dates realistically speaking, if we're being honest with ourselves Pacquiao wanted nothing to do with random drug testing, his initial demands exposed all that.
      Poor Floyd fans can't even agree to when the cutoff dates were on or off the table .... but more importantly, are missing the point that Manny, who was being ACCUSED by Floyd and company of PEDs, had agreed to extra testing. They just couldn't agree on the cutoff date.

      If Manny was on PEDs, he wouldn't agree to any type of extra testing. As Floyd fans keep on saying, Manny wanted to cycle off of the drugs, but AGAIN, if that was the case then he would not agree to any form of extra testing.

      Finally, when Manny agreed to PEDs testing, Floyd still found new roadblocks and you guys still come here and try to accuse with no proof or should I say, continue to flame the fire of su****ion with no proof.

      If you believe then you must also believe that Floyd was tested positive 3 times due to the rumors. Right?
      Last edited by ADP02; 07-01-2014, 02:45 PM.

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        Originally posted by Vadrigar. View Post
        Why didn't Pacquiao undertake random drug testing at the peak of his performances?

        You don't think that's su****ious? The excuses his team came up with made him look worse.
        Floyd's new rules were not some type of gold standard of testing. They were negotiating and YOU and OTHER CRIME STOPPERs need to get that Manny was ready and willing to do extra testing but they just didn't agree on the cutoff dates.

        On top of all that, Manny was being ACCUSED by Floyd and company of taking PEDs ..... if you want the fight to happen, that is not a good way to do it as it would tick anyone off!

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          Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
          I gave a paragraph on what I blame Floyd d for and how those actions contributed to the fight not happening. You quoted the post but parsed 3/4's of it when reponding. I didn't make you do that.

          How about you be an adult an acknowledge that. No one credible solely blames manny.

          That said, Manny's behavior and actions are Manny's fault. No one else's.
          Manny's behavior and actions? All that little dude is guilty of is whooping the best dudes they put in front of him, and testing negative.

          If the Mayweather's have a beef with that, that's solely their problem, not Manny's. Again, everybody sounds real ****** chastising that man's business moves, or his principles, based on his main rival's speculation. Ali publicly called Frazier a gorilla and an uncle Tom, did he put in the contract that no pets or white folks could come the arena? This roid accusation mess is overemphasized by people who probably don't know nothing about it.

          ...and has Pacquaio been caught cheating yet to this day? No. So kudos for the little dude for standing on his principles. Stand for nothing, fall for anything.

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            Originally posted by Beercules View Post
            Manny said he is willing to do testing but now he has to leave Bob, then before that Manny could have the WBC belt.


            You remember that or nah?
            Do you remember Manny not accepting 40M offer, confirmed by Ariza?
            1) Floyd obviously doesn't think Manny is his equal when it comes to dividing the pie.
            2) why use 2 promoters if one promoter is capable of doing the job? To me it seems logical to cut expenses and middlemen as much as possible if you want the fighters to profit to the max. Koncz is capable and experienced enough i hope to do the negotiations why pay another promoter so there is less for the fighters.
            3) if in 2014 people still think that every test is the same, and passing urine tests and the likes means something...
            He obviously didnt want elite random testing and no matter what he wasnt confident enough to make the fight happen on a level playing field. Johnny Hendricks vs GSP(in MMA) a similar situation. There are enough examples out there that proof that random testing with a VADA involved will lead to people getting caught, even former champs who have passed tests for years.

            there is no proof Manny ever took PED s.

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              Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
              Floyd's new rules were not some type of gold standard of testing. They were negotiating and YOU and OTHER CRIME STOPPERs need to get that Manny was ready and willing to do extra testing but they just didn't agree on the cutoff dates.

              On top of all that, Manny was being ACCUSED by Floyd and company of taking PEDs ..... if you want the fight to happen, that is not a good way to do it as it would tick anyone off!
              cut off dates? you either do the strictest random testing with the best testing agency or you dont do it at all. Have you followed the A rod story a bit? If you want to get these guys you cant have no cut off dates. you think a cut of date is the same as a random test up to the day of the fight? you think you cant cheat with a 14 day cut off date? If i was going for a random testing campaign i wouldnt settle for a flawed cut-off date compromise.

              Besides that Mayweather signed his contract waiting on manny to sign his.

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                Originally posted by Meruem & Komugi View Post
                cut off dates? you either do the strictest random testing with the best testing agency or you dont do it at all. Have you followed the A rod story a bit? If you want to get these guys you cant have no cut off dates. you think a cut of date is the same as a random test up to the day of the fight? you think you cant cheat with a 14 day cut off date? If i was going for a random testing campaign i wouldnt settle for a flawed cut-off date compromise.

                Besides that Mayweather signed his contract waiting on manny to sign his.
                A Hunter x Hunter fan, last ep was epic

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                  If there was evidence then he'd be convicted. It's how the legal system works.
                  But as their isn't legit evidence you will just have to weigh up the little su****ions that there are and decide for yourself.
                  Or you can just not give a **** for rumors and concentrate on something that won't end in petty fanboy rivalry

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                    Just commone sense tells you he has juiced

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                      It's just speculation. That's all it ever has been.

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