Roach admits it was pacquiao's fault the mayweather fight never happened...

[Jcsuper]

Going by the below statements,
Floyd didn't want a fight from 2010-Current

- "I'm not interested in fighting Manny .... I want to go on a long vacation" - Floyd Jr in 2010

- "Floyd can't fight someone like Manny. He needs a few tuneups first." - "Roger Mayweather" in 2011

- "I want to fight the best and yes Manny you are next! .... I never said Manny is next, don't put words in my mouth." - Floyd Jr in 2011

- "Fight Manny for my legacy? Not important, health comes first" - Floyd Jr in 2012

- "I'm not interested in fighting Manny " - Floyd Jr in 2013/2014

ahahahah it's ok don't cry, we all know that Floyd has his part of responsibility in this fiasco. But its so fun of tasting the tears of pact ard like you desperately trying to save Pacquiao's reputation when his own trainer and conditioner give part of the blame to him

[Butler]

Going by the below statements,
Floyd didn't want a fight from 2010-Current

- "I'm not interested in fighting Manny .... I want to go on a long vacation" - Floyd Jr in 2010

- "Floyd can't fight someone like Manny. He needs a few tuneups first." - "Roger Mayweather" in 2011

- "I want to fight the best and yes Manny you are next! .... I never said Manny is next, don't put words in my mouth." - Floyd Jr in 2011

- "Fight Manny for my legacy? Not important, health comes first" - Floyd Jr in 2012

- "I'm not interested in fighting Manny " - Floyd Jr in 2013/2014

but but but but roach said it was manny's fault... lol

[Butler]

ahahahah it's ok don't cry, we all know that Floyd has his part of responsibility in this fiasco. But its so fun of tasting the tears of pact ard like you desperately trying to save Pacquiao's reputation when his own trainer and conditioner give part of the blame to him

yeah right.. you just got exposed so you're backpedaling.. coz there's overwhelming evidence floyd didnt want the fight..

[Jcsuper]

yeah right.. you just got exposed so you're backpedaling.. coz there's overwhelming evidence floyd didnt want the fight..

How am I backpedaling ? Ive said numerous times that Floyd and Pac are two ****1ing divas that never intended to fight each other. However I do think that in the first negociations Floyd wanted to get the fight done.

- Fearing needles when youre full of tatoos
- Having a cut that needs to heal for the next year
- Building a stadium
- Blood testing draining his energy
- Putting an ultimatum and signing Clottey in the process instead of honestly negociationg
- Your own trainer and conditioner agree that they fuc ked up the first negociations

You don't think that's overwhelming evidences that your god is maybe not the fearless warrior that you think ? And that maybe he's all about money just like Floyd, and prefered to take lesser challange and keep the big payday for the end ?

Floyd and Pac are exactly the same. They want the $$ and thats it.

[Vasyl’s dad]

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Originally Posted by Opinionated



He demands testing, and says he'll get the fight if the demands are accepted.... then now that testing demands are approved by team Pac he says as long as Pac is with Arum the fight will never happen.... why wasn't Arum a factor in 09/10?????



Yet more bollocks from Mayweather that the tards continue to believe. Now all you can here is the tards crying about Pac needing to leave Arum not ''take da test'' because he has accepted those demands... they've really convinced themselves that Arum is the reason that the fight is not happening, depsite there being no demands for Arum's expulsion in 09/10

This has been beaten completely to death for the last year, responded to countless times, and yet you post this babble as if its some kind of ***** card that no one has the answer to. Lol.

You have absolutely no idea what Pacquiao's camp has or hasn't agreed to because neither side has had any "REAL" negotiations since 2009. You can't take the majority of what either side says through the media seriously. Pacquiao's team will say whatever they think their fans want to hear and Mayweather will say things clearly designed to piss people off.

Pacquiao's camp keeps talking about how they have agreed to all of Mayweather's terms, right? Then why hasn't Bob Arum, the promoter that Pacquiao constantly says is in charge of who he fights - after every ****ing fight - ever contacted Mayweather's camp and attempt to legitimately make the fight happen?

Why has it been Mayweather's camp that has LEGITIMATELY tried to contact Pacquiao's camp twice since 2009 and make the fight happen? Why did Arum's camp say in public that they were looking to fight Mayweather, but when they were contacted directly about it say that they were pursuing a Marquez fight instead?

Why is it that when Mayweather, for a third time, attempted to reach out to Pacquaio about a fight, did Arum say that Pacquiao had a cut that wouldn't heal before Mayweather went to jail and that he wanted to build a stadium that wouldn't be ready until the summer, when he knew that Mayweather would be in jail?

Why is it that Mayweather had an offer for Pacquiao that he turned down (after speaking to Arum/Konz) and hung up the phone without attempting to negotiate a better deal?

Those are facts. That actually HAPPENED. I'm not using random quotes said over the course of the last 5 years from PROMOTERS that will use ridiculous rhetoric to position themselves. I'm pointing out actual events that took place that were legitimate attempts to make the fight happen - all initiated by Mayweather's team, not Pacquiao's, who claim to badly want the fight to happen.

Can you name a time since 2009 where Pacquiao's camp has tried to negotiate with Mayweather's camp in good faith? When was it?

So what was the purpose of the "take the test " shirts?


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[ADP02]

ahahahah it's ok don't cry, we all know that Floyd has his part of responsibility in this fiasco. But its so fun of tasting the tears of pact ard like you desperately trying to save Pacquiao's reputation when his own trainer and conditioner give part of the blame to him

How am I backpedaling ? Ive said numerous times that Floyd and Pac are two ****1ing divas that never intended to fight each other. However I do think that in the first negociations Floyd wanted to get the fight done.

- Fearing needles when youre full of tatoos
- Having a cut that needs to heal for the next year
- Building a stadium
- Blood testing draining his energy
- Putting an ultimatum and signing Clottey in the process instead of honestly negociationg
- Your own trainer and conditioner agree that they fuc ked up the first negociations

You don't think that's overwhelming evidences that your god is maybe not the fearless warrior that you think ? And that maybe he's all about money just like Floyd, and prefered to take lesser challange and keep the big payday for the end ?

Floyd and Pac are exactly the same. They want the $$ and thats it.

If you get a poll going, you would quickly realize that you are mistaken. "Who wants the fight more" or "who tried to duck the fight"
Actually, no poll or evidence will get you to agree but that is another matter.

Roach is saying that they should have accepted initially. Cool, no problem but that doesn't translate to what you believe. Manny has always wanted the fight and made the mistake of getting Floyd a way of backing out .

As I pointed out, lot's of times you actually hear Floyd saying that he was not interested in fighting Manny. You don't see Manny saying that. So if you believe Roach, you need to believe that Floyd was never really interested in fighting Manny as he stated from 2010 - TODAY.

[ADP02]

but but but but roach said it was manny's fault... lol

I know that is all Floyd fans can say ...... Floyd fans can't even repeat or bring up Floyd's ducking roadblocks

[Jcsuper]

If you get a poll going, you would quickly realize that you are mistaken. "Who wants the fight more" or "who tried to duck the fight"
Actually, no poll or evidence will get you to agree but that is another matter.

Roach is saying that they should have accepted initially. Cool, no problem but that doesn't translate to what you believe. Manny has always wanted the fight and made the mistake of getting Floyd a way of backing out .

As I pointed out, lot's of times you actually hear Floyd saying that he was not interested in fighting Manny. You don't see Manny saying that. So if you believe Roach, you need to believe that Floyd was never really interested in fighting Manny as he stated from 2010 - TODAY.

ahahah ok so just to resume :

- Fearing needles when youre full of tatoos
- Having a cut that needs to heal for the next year
- Building a stadium
- Blood testing draining his energy
- Putting an ultimatum and signing Clottey in the process instead of honestly negociationg
- Your own trainer and conditioner agree that they fuc ked up the first negociations
- Ask for gloves size, 50-50 split, huge weight penalty, but refuse a ****1ng blood test for the biggest payday in the history of boxing

And all this, in your fantasy world, translate to Manny wanting the fight but made the mistake of getting Floyd a way of backing out. ahahahah you're just pathetic.

Like I've said, Im a floyd fan, but I know the dude is a diva and dont really want the fight.

What I find amusing on this site is the little children who thinks that Pac is some kind of fearless god. You know, kids like you

[ADP02]

ahahah ok so just to resume :

- Fearing needles when youre full of tatoos
- Having a cut that needs to heal for the next year
- Building a stadium
- Blood testing draining his energy
- Putting an ultimatum and signing Clottey in the process instead of honestly negociationg
- Your own trainer and conditioner agree that they fuc ked up the first negociations
- Ask for gloves size, 50-50 split, huge weight penalty, but refuse a ****1ng blood test for the biggest payday in the history of boxing

And all this, in your fantasy world, translate to Manny wanting the fight but made the mistake of getting Floyd a way of backing out. ahahahah you're just pathetic.

Like I've said, Im a floyd fan, but I know the dude is a diva and dont really want the fight.

What I find amusing on this site is the little children who thinks that Pac is some kind of fearless god. You know, kids like you

You can do better than that .... come on, show us all those roadblocks created by Floyd ....... GO!

It's not about being a diva it's about "health comes first" ...... and that Floyd does NOT want to risk his precious "0". You can't come up with a reason why Manny would duck Floyd because there isn't one. Manny lost to Morales and Marquez, life still moves on for Manny. He even jokes about his loss to Marquez.

If Floyd lost to Manny, you know that it would have been "party over" for Floyd. There is a difference that you can't seem to understand.

[Jcsuper]

You can do better than that .... come on, show us all those roadblocks created by Floyd ....... GO!

It's not about being a diva it's about "health comes first" ...... and that Floyd does NOT want to risk his precious "0". You can't come up with a reason why Manny would duck Floyd because there isn't one. Manny lost to Morales and Marquez, life still moves on for Manny. He even jokes about his loss to Marquez.

If Floyd lost to Manny, you know that it would have been "party over" for Floyd. There is a difference that you can't seem to understand.

Lol, like getting planked by Marquez was part of the plan. Pac-Marquez IV was a cherrypick that went terribly wrong.