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    #11
    Well, read my sig..there hav3 been plenty of fighters that said floyds a *****..atgs even

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      #12
      Misleading title guy has an agenda with his videos, I notice he likes to say things like all these racists like to twist things, yet he does exactly what he complains about by reaching and twisting things to back his own biased agenda

      That guy Dontaeboxing has a pro black boxing agenda, he is a mentallly ill person, he has this paranoia and racial bias yet claims everyone else is bias but him.

      Ill ask anyone this has he ever said a bad thing or blamed Floyd Mayweather in any of his dontaesboxingnation videos? NEVER yet he claims everyone else is biased but him lol and that we hate the TRUTH, well I guess the TRUTH is only what Dontate boxing feels is the truth, dude is a typical race bias flowmo.

      If only these boxing guys knew what this guy was about they wouldn't be giving him shoutouts, dude is a snake he slams pacquiao and roach than smiles to their faces.

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        #13
        Originally posted by puga View Post
        Well, read my sig..there hav3 been plenty of fighters that said floyds a *****..atgs even
        Did those people have the inside knowledge Freddie Roach does? If his own trainer said it was their fault then it was.

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          #14
          Originally posted by hectari View Post
          Misleading title guy has an agenda with his videos, I notice he likes to say things like all these racists like to twist things, yet he does exactly what he complains about by reaching and twisting things to back his own biased agenda

          That guy Dontaeboxing has a pro black boxing agenda, he is a mentallly ill person, he has this paranoia and racial bias yet claims everyone else is bias but him.

          Ill ask anyone this has he ever said a bad thing or blamed Floyd Mayweather in any of his dontaesboxingnation videos? NEVER yet he claims everyone else is biased but him lol and that we hate the TRUTH, well I guess the TRUTH is only what Dontate boxing feels is the truth, dude is a typical race bias flowmo.

          If only these boxing guys knew what this guy was about they wouldn't be giving him shoutouts, dude is a snake he slams pacquiao and roach than smiles to their faces.
          Lmao wtf does this have to do with roach saying it was their fault it didn't happen

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            #15
            Text version of Freddie's comments...


            Question: what do you think in the fullness of time, when people look back at history, they will see pacquaio is the man that mayweather didn't fight, rather than pacquaio didn't get the mayweather fight?

            Freddie Roach: I don't know it will come across that way. I think people will say why didn't they fight each other, and blame both guys to be honest with you. Because the first negotiation we were against the blood test, and it was kinda our fault that the first time it didn't work. Then it came to a point where we accepted that later on. I think it's both guys.

            Question: How much do you think the promoters and the animosity the promoters had towards each other have hurt that fight?

            Freddie Roach: Fighters fight to me. Fighters will fight anybody. It's not like fighters are scared. I think it's a lot to do, especially a couple years ago, a lot had to do with Golden Boy and Top Rank. And just not wanting to work together. I remember when Don King and Bob Arum were the big guys, and they hated each other, but they still promoted fights. But I don't know why these two companies can't because the pool for fighters is getting much smaller, because there's two separate pools. If they don't start crossing over, there won't be no fights, good fights.
            Freddie, you seem to be suggesting just there then, even about Floyd Mayweather, that perhaps he even wants the fight with Manny, or wanted the fight. But he was talked out of it by someone?

            I know fighters, and fighters they're not afraid of anybody in the world. They will fight each other I think. But I can't read his mind of course. The thing is over time it's just like why hasn't this fight happened? Every big fight that's ever supposed to happen, has happened, in the history of boxing. But it's sometimes sooner, sometimes later. But it's just like this one, maybe it's too late at this point. How much interest is there? It's still a big fight, but not like it was two years ago.
            Freddie Roach: When they were both in their prime two years ago, and there was a lot of interest in the fight, I'm sure both fighters wanted to make that fight happen.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
              Did those people have the inside knowledge Freddie Roach does? If his own trainer said it was their fault then it was.
              You tell me, they were former champions and atgs

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                #17
                Originally posted by puga View Post
                You tell me, they were former champions and atgs
                How does being former champions have any significance on what they know about the negotiations?

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                  #18
                  Everyone knows it was PACs. Fault first fight PAC fans are just unreasonable.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
                    I think it's Pacquiao. Here what Roach said a few months ago about a iayweather fight.

                    "I think Arum being the promoter and the professional that he is, will give Manny that fight. I like that September date, I'm pushing for it," the trainer stated. "I'm gonna call Manny this afternoon... all he has to do is call Bob, tell him who he wants, Mayweather, and I think it'll get done."


                    Doesn't sound like he believes Arum or Mayweather would have much problem making it.
                    Anyone with any common sense at all knows this fight negotiation was destroyed by mp and his team in 2010. Floyd ended up caving on every demand he initially wanted. He said no wasy to 50/50 split and then he caved. He said no way to a cut off for ost, then he caved to 14 days. He caved to a weight penalty without argument. The other team on the other handmade it seem like ost was introduced at the 11th hour.when they knew from.day dot, then they lied by implying they accepted ost with a 14 day cut off In mediation and floyd refused.despite advice from his team to make the deal...and then less than two weeks later clottey was signed sealed.and delivered. That's negotiating in bad faith. Any impartial person, or any non deluded individual armed with this available info.can o ly come to the conclusion that team mp didn't. Want the fight at it's most relevant period.

                    As for making it now who thinks floyd will agree to a 50% split today? Fight is much harder to make now.because.floyd will want everything on his terms and manny has a history of being greedy with purse splits

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                      #20
                      I was wondering how long it would take before this made it over here

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