Comments Thread For: Roach Confident Cotto Will Exploit Martinez's Style

[Beater_of_ass]

Martinez wasn't down in the Williams rematch, Dzinziruk fight, or Barker fight. Even at 154, Cotto was briefly staggered by Floyd Mayweather. He may have also been stunned against Trout in the later rounds, I don't remember exactly. Point is, he's shown that even at 154, he can still be hurt by much weaker punchers than Martinez. And Cotto has never been the champion at 140, 147, or 154. He's been a titleholder. But he's never been recognized as the legitimate champion in any of the divisions he's competed in. Martinez is recognized as the legitimate 160lb champion.

Martinez has faced numerous top 10 fighters. Fighters who were recognized near universally as top 10. Every title defense Martinez has made has been against a top 10 or future top 10 160lber, except for Dzinziruk (top 10 154lber). Cotto is definitely NOT light years ahead of Martinez's opponents skill wise. Cotto has a very porous defense, he has no right hand and doesn't move his head that much. He's not this master boxer you make him out to be. And you said Cotto was the smarter fighter, but you never offered any examples to support it. A guy who gets beaten up by the likes of Pacquiao and Trout is not beating Martinez.

Everything you said loses all crediblity with an idiotic statement like that, you exposed yourself.

[assiong]

I like both of them, Sergio gives you that entertaining fights because of his quick reflexes ala Roy Jones when he was on his prime. He'll drop his hands down to his waist baiting his opponent to strike then he countered them with straight left. Miguel on the other hand gives us fan a viscious exciting fights. We know he'll go for the kill the moment the 1st bell ring, if he can't get you out there right away, he'll soften you up with body shots. I like this match up because of one thing only. After the fight, the loser contemplate of retiring. Both been to too many wars and they are not really young anymore.

[GRUSTLER]

The ignorance is strong with Boxingscene today. Martinez is not some great figher, seriously where do you people come up with this ****? He lost his last fight against a guy who didn't jab, just walked in with his hands up and nothing else. He was dropped in that fight, dropped in the Chavez fight, dropped in every fight prior up to the first Williams fight. His defense is sloppy, he is very easy to hit and he is actually pretty easy to drop.

Cotto will have the speed advantage in this fight, period. You "know it all" type guys can say otherwise but Sergio is fast compared to 180+ pounders, Cotto was keeping up with guys at 140 and 147. He'll cut off the ring on the slower Martinez and Sergio backs straight up into the ropes, not to metion Cotto is a far smarter fight than Sergio. He started younger and had a prestine amateur career. All that being said, it's still a close fight as Sergio isn't a bad fighter and again he is the bigger man and Cotto doesn't not have the chin. But, skills pay the bills and Cotto is a much better all around boxer/fighter than Sergio.

Cotto is getting beat down.

[lefthook2daliva]

Cotto is getting beat down.

You seem pretty confident.

Are you giving odds?

[mistermartin]

Your RJJ comment automatically disqualifies you from any halfway serious boxing dialogue...Convo over.

[GRUSTLER]

I've been saying the exact same thing Roach said here since the beginning.

Martinez's style WILL NOT WORK against faster more skilled opponents. That hands down defense will be the end of Martinez against top level competition.

Styles make fights and come June 7 it'll be clear as day.

Since when has Cotto been faster or more skilled than Martinez?

[GRUSTLER]

You seem pretty confident.

Are you giving odds?

What odds?

[AddiX]

Since when has Cotto been faster or more skilled than Martinez?

Since always, you clearly did not follow his whole career. Martinez is fast and skilled at certain things, cotto is fast and skilled at everything. Martinez needs aggressive fighters to look good, because he's very limited moving forward.

Against boxers who didn't rush in, Martinez had a lot of trouble. People seem to miss that. The guys who stood in front of him and boxed and moved, Martinez went through hell to beat them.

Guys with those styles, but weren't as good as cotto or at his talent level, he absolutely destroyed.

Not saying he will win, the size advantage is quite significant. But overall skill wise, cotto is far above Martinez. Those stiff euros Martinez fought and had trouble with, cotto takes them out in 3.

And as far as hand speed goes, look at cotto when he was young or fighting at 140 coming up, his hand speed was insane, ome of the best left hooks I ever seen.

[JJRod]

Umm... yes, yes you do when the last time you fought someone in the top 10 P4P was over 5 years ago (Paul Williams) who BTW shouldn't have even been in the top 10. He was a KO waiting to happen and I said it well before he fought Sergio, he was a 6'3" toothpick fighting guys 5'7" at 147 pounds. Martinez has fought C level opposition since Pavlik (who was drunk during that fight.)

Roy Jones and Sergio are nearly identical twins in terms of how they win fights. The minute Roy went up against a highly skilled BOXER he got KTFO.

I agree with you here. I use to say this back in the day and people would get extremely butt hurt about it. Williams was never that great.

Non the less though I disagree with you on how good Martinez is. He beat a lot of top 10 guy in the division following his win over Williams. Dzinziruk was the number 1 guy at 54 at the time, and Martinez embarrassed him. Macklin, Chavez, Murray all were ranked in the top 10 when he beat them.
He may not be the best middleweight ever, but he does posses great skill, punching power and stamina. All these attributes are good enough to beat a very faded Cotto. Let us not forget that Cotto is past his prime.

[Beater_of_ass]

Pacquiao's a welterweight. A guy getting beaten up by a small welterweight is not going to have much of a chance against the middleweight champion of the world.

Manny beat Margarito and Margarito beat Martinez... so no, you're wrong but I knew that already.